Do you find it offensive?

When playing a game, particularly a daily game where much more time is invested, and you lose.. and your opponent points out mistakes you made? Let me clarify: I don't point out tactical errors unless it's a blunder that costs the game. I try to give more general advice about piece activity, planning, structural weaknesses, etc - something that is far easier for a person to grasp than just variations that an engine would give them in analysis anyway. Teaching is a passion of mine, whether it's chess or other areas (eg, carpentry - I always try to show my employees better/easier/more efficient ways of doing things), so it's habit. Sometimes I get a thanks and a conversation but usually there's no response. So the question is: is this something you would regard as offensive?

Offering unsolicited advice as the winner always risks being taken badly.

I'd be offended if it were something obvious. If it were less obvious is just depends. If it were understood beforehand that there could be analysis afterwards (maybe I know this person) or if they asked me if I wanted to review the game (and I said yes), then I wouldn't be offended.

if they said 'that move is so stupid because of this 5 move tactic that damages your pawn structure' then it can be insulting. 

I like to just put a question mark and ask if I'm missing some sort of trap when they hang a piece and I take it. 

I agree, sammy_boi. I always do my best to word it so that it's understood that I'm not trying to be snobby or conceited; just trying to offer insight on any weaknesses I see. And I always wish the player luck in the future. It's normally lower-rated players that challenge me for a game or that I get paired with in tournaments. Like I said, it's habit for me especially in OTB play to do a post mortem. But here, instead of a full-on post mortem, it's more general ideas that I see missed that I try to point out. I dunno, it was always something I appreciated from stronger opponents but I can see where it would rub some personalities the wrong way.

I'd take it as a compliment, because someone took their time to help me improve my mistakes. That is, unless they started insulting me. Almost anything can be misinterpreted on the internet.

Lol nah, I was just curious about others' opinions. If anyone tries to insult me in an online chess game I just ignore it because they're probably just miserable beings with anger issues. Not worth my time.

I don't find that offensive, but valuable and helpful! 

If they don't reply, I guess they're probably bad losers and kinda rude!

well, normally conversing is a natural thing and offering tips for one benefiting should be appreciated more or less.

 

It would be rude if chat was disabled and nothing replied to such consideration.

do you not find politeness a +?

First of all, I said "kinda rude" not straight-up "rude", there's a little difference. 

And secondly, I find it kinda rude to not reply when someone spends his/her time giving you useful advice - saying "thank you" would be a nice thing to do

As for your second sentence (if that is your logic then if someone wins and doesn't give advice then that's rude too...) it makes absolutely no sense

How do you call that behaviour?

I love it when I get some feedback from my opponent after the game.  Occasionally I ask what he was thinking at a particular point.  Sometimes I offer some feedback to my opponent.

"I'm gonna crush you like a cockroach" xD LOL!

lol

 

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Depends on the way the commentary is made. If it is made in a friendly manner, with suggestions, then I would only welcome it. But when it is "Your 31st move sucked, you have a lot to learn, young padawan", then I would safely ignore such "advice".

It's usually pretty obvious to me where I went wrong right after I make the move and usually before the opponent even moves, so yeah, it is offensive.

Its only considered offensive online.  In OTB play, its common practice for both players to go over the game.  So consider the source.

you make no sense at all