Do you like the fried liver attack?

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richb8888

Did not mean to be to rude, but you called it a hack opening and only beginners at the low level played it-sounded pretty condesending to me. I have seen higher lever players use this attack on youtube and then branch off it at times in the game. I just wanted a more aggressive opening  in my tool box.I am not sure how often I will use it. I have heard a lot about this attack and was just curious what others thought or if they had any advice on it-sorry if your feelings were hurt -and why would you not attack the weak spot??

Bareilly

Fried Lever Attack is an opening which begin with moves:

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Nxd5
For sure- its not the most sound opening system as we never witness it at GM level.
But for beginners looking to "shock" the opponent & to secure an advantage can try it. However, at ratings 1400+ this system may not be the best to play with.
AlisonHart

Hack is a verb in chess slang, not an adjective - to 'hack' is to make extremely aggressive attacks by sacrificing material when the result is not a calculated forced checkmate but the hope of a forced checkmate. The fried liver is a hack attack - not an attack made only by hacks =P

premio53
Bareilly wrote:

Fried Lever Attack is an opening which begin with moves:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 For sure- its not the most sound opening system as we never witness it at GM level.But for beginners looking to "shock" the opponent & to secure an advantage can try it. However, at ratings 1400+ this system may not be the best to play with.

"Chess Opening Essentials" which was written by grandmasters says that 5...Nxd5?! gives White the advantage after either 6. Nxf7!? (the Fegatello) or 6. d4!.

Porrune

AlisonHart  

Hack is a verb in chess slang, not an adjective - to 'hack' is to make extremely aggressive attacks by sacrificing material when the result is not a calculated forced checkmate but the hope of a forced checkmate. The fried liver is a hack attack - not an attack made only by hacks =P

- Actually as white you usually don't sacrifice material ( unless your opponent misplays their opening with: 5...Nxd5) so usually its a "hack" opening for black, esppecially with 5... Na5 6. Bb5+ 6...c3

Patricioramos

I think that it is a good way to teach beginners about attacking chess. However, go a couple hundred of points in rating and you will rarely see it. Once people start figuring out that sacrificing the d pawn to gain a better position of black, then I would tell you to learn more openings, like the Spanish.

Edit: The reason that a lot of people don't like to teach it to beginners is also that many people will just do it automatically. My teacher always tells me that one must understand openings, not memorizing. Otherwise, you will get thrown off by any move that isn't that popular.

As long as you don't try the Scholar's mate..then it's not that bad. I must admit that I did fall for it like 2 weeks ago, since I hadn't played against it in months :P. 

Jadulla

It's a childish opening, and very easy to neutralize. ...e6 kills the attack and gives very good compensation. 

Nckchrls

The general idea of the attack probably couldn't be considered sound. It appears after 4.Ng5 White has two hanging pieces with a potential threat on f7. Hanging pieces is possibly not the best habit for beginners.

So the continuation 4...d5 attacking one of the hanging pieces seems logical but after 5. exd5, probably most logical is 5...Na5 continuing the attack on the hanging piece and pretty much eliminating the threat to f7.

Coincedently, I had not faced this line in probably 20+ years and I didn't even realize this was called the Fried Liver Attack. But hit it a couple of weeks ago in a skittles game and at least in that game Black seemed much better developed after gaining a couple of tempo from White's apparently misplaced pieces.

I'm just guessing, but White's record with this opening might not be the greatest if Black doesn't fall for 5...Nxd5.  

GMatchen

Slusser, I'm not sure why you try and separate the Two Knights from the Fried Liver Attack, which is still an early variation of the Two Knights. There are also variations of the Fried Liver Attack where White does not immediately take on f7, but delays it, and transpositions can actually turn into a FLA, so it's just good to know the theory if you're going to play it anyway!