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I begin to play on-line chess about 10 year ago.

I begin to play 7 minutes game and my rating was X

Now I play 3 minutes game and even 1 minute game and my rating is the same.

The only thing different in me is the speed, now I play fastest at the same level of strength…

So my raking 10 year ago was X now is X…

Do you thing I made some progress?

 

Another question…

As I said I have 10 years of experience in on-line games, but my rating is low…Should I be considered a beginner?

I think no but the rating is low.

Thanks for your attention...

 


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If you only play fast games you will never learn how to make good moves and never get past a certain level.

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The ratings are from diffrent pools and can't be compared.

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Thanks for your answer

 

Atahant I made the same blunders in fast games as in slower games... And sometimes i made good moves in fast games so i don't see your point of view... There are people that play faster games with high ratings so i think they play well

Puroi don't understand what you mean 

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Fiveofswords they give the rating of 1600 at my first game. i play against a + or - a rating of 1350. I win. the system gave me 80 points for the win... so i have 1680 of rating but...

At FICS i have a rating of +- 1400 and at playchess.com I have a rating between 1350 and 1550. 

So i dont thing i have a high rating.

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I wouldn't say that you're rating staying the same is evidence of improvement since the time control you're playing at is the same for the opponent.

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Scala wrote:

Thanks for your answer

 

Atahant I made the same blunders in fast games as in slower games... And sometimes i made good moves in fast games so i don't see your point of view... There are people that play faster games with high ratings so i think they play well


When I say slow games I mean games that take 3 hours to play. Not 15 minute games. I very much doubt you make similar blunders in a slow game. I doubt that you make equally good moves when playing fast and if you never make good moves how will you improve?

Yes there are players that are higher rated then you on blitz but they probably play slow games aswell because the better you get at slow games the better your blitz will get.

Patterns and strategy you learn from long games can be applied to your blitz games. And why are patterns learned from long games better then patterns learned from blitz? Because they are better. You make better and stronger moves when you play slower. Once you make those strong moves while playing slow you will later be able to apply those patterns on faster games. It doesn't work the other way around because you make BAD moves when playing blitz and never learn to make good moves.

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AtahanT wrote:
Scala wrote:

Thanks for your answer

 

Atahant I made the same blunders in fast games as in slower games... And sometimes i made good moves in fast games so i don't see your point of view... There are people that play faster games with high ratings so i think they play well


When I say slow games I mean games that take 3 hours to play. Not 15 minute games. I very much doubt you make similar blunders in a slow game. I doubt that you make equally good moves when playing fast and if you never make good moves how will you improve?

Yes there are players that are higher rated then you on blitz but they probably play slow games aswell because the better you get at slow games the better your blitz will get.

Patterns and strategy you learn from long games can be applied to your blitz games. And why are patterns learned from long games better then patterns learned from blitz? Because they are better. You make better and stronger moves when you play slower. Once you make those strong moves while playing slow you will later be able to apply those patterns on faster games. It doesn't work the other way around because you make BAD moves when playing blitz and never learn to make good moves.


hear, hear

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I think what Atahan is saying is simaliar to becoming a masterful guitar player.

Marty Friedman and Yngwie Malmsteen play some of the fastest guitar, but don't think they became this fast by practicing to play fast. Nope. They play the frets slowly the first time, extremely slow, but spaced out so that the rhythm matches. After they play it slow for the first few times, then they remember it, and they start practicing it faster and faster, until they reach that glorious speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wCsDnumbSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4

So the same can be applied to chess. The slower you play, the more likely you will figure out some problem, and remember it in blitz games.

Take for example the beginner's queen attack opening... "1. e4...e5 2. Qh5"
I use to always respond "2... Nf6", that was the wrong response, but it was better than the noobie mistake "2... g6", then after analyzing it in a slower game, the real solution was 2... Nc6. But I played 2... Nf6 for years, always working with a pawn down (I just never took the time to think of that).

As far as your initial question. You may be stuck in the same rating for years, but if you have been playing consistently and daily, then your rating is much higher in reality. You just keep making a few of those mistakes that keep you down.

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Actually 2. ...Nf6 is playable as a gambit.

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All 2...Nf6 has given me, is the painful loss of a pawn with no results. Unless my development lead is enough compensation for you.

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