Do you think chess and mathematics are related?

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Knightly_News

How would chess and math be related? Mathematically? Or by good moves?

RonaldJosephCote

  Thanks buddy, I gotta get out more.Embarassed

JonHutch

bb_gum234 wrote:

PaullHutchh wrote:

big computer smash stupid smelly chess. computer big fast and big smart. chess big dumb dumb lose to big smart computer

I can tell you know a lot about it.

Obviously no one knows for sure. But it is inevitable maybe not in our life time, but I'd guess by 2200 at most. By 2050 alone it is expected that supercomputers will be able to simulate millions and possibly billions of human brains at once.

dpnorman

Maybe, but I am not a math person at all and am okay at chess.

Gil-Gandel
SmyslovFan wrote:

Yeah, that was a fun one. I spent more than half an hour on that puzzle.

Yes indeed. It kept me amused for a good two minutes myself. Laughing

Gil-Gandel
PaullHutchh wrote:

Yes. Chess has a finite amount of moves. Eventually every move will be found by a super computer through calculation.

No, the number of possible positions and move sequences is finite but too large for a computer the size of the entire Universe.

To give you a data point, a tablebase of all possible five-man positions needs only a beggarly 7 gigabytes of storage. Add a sixth man, and the number of positions jumps to 1.2 terabytes... and it continues to get worse.

DrSpudnik

I think chess and math are cousins. But they're distant cousins, so they can get married.

zborg

It's been an incestuous relationship from the beginning, and their offspring leave much to be desired.

Nowadays, the door to cheating has opened wide, unfortunately.

But it remains a happy, lifetime, addiction for most.  Smile

tomy_gun

math is a pastime of slaves of system, while chess had come from heaven as a game of mind and life and is not a crazy activity or a brain killer

SmyslovFan
tomy_gun wrote:

math is a pastime of slaves of system, while chess had come from heaven as a game of mind and life and is not a crazy activity or a brain killer

Congratulations! You showed a lack of understanding of both mathematics and chess!

Knightly_News

@stuzzicadenti But the question was, is chess related to math, not "Are you related to a mathematician who taught you chess?"

Nice try though.   :-) 

Bobby_Joey

partially. They  are somehow related

riverblues

math is all about logic, i say. chess is about imagination.

HappyMask

There's a lot to mathematics beyond the world of calculus and college algebra. Unfortunately, many people stop after basic calculus and miss out on courses that begin to introduce proofs (beyond that of what a proof is shown to be in a basic geometry course). Pure math is a very imaginative field, not at all focused on computation.

I think there are some definite connections between pure mathematical thinking and chess. When I first took up chess I noticed a similarity between looking ahead at future moves and visualizing approaches to proving a statement in mathematics. To prove something directly, you must assemble a sequence of true statements in a logically sound order to reach an end conclusion. A lot of coming up with a proof (if possible) happens with thinking ahead to determine sequences that work. This is similar to chess, where you visualize sequences and ideas related to those sequences to reach and end goal, such as the win of material, or mate etc.

Also like in chess, to prove something, you don't just try every sequence you can think of; there's usually just too many. You have to understand a bigger picture of the idea behind a proof or a sequence of moves.

Hopey546

yes

Jadulla

Nope. 

TheAdultProdigy
Tantale wrote:

Do you think chess and mathematics are related?

 

Yes and no.  Yes, as much as art is related to chess; and no, as much as tacos and the color pink have in common.

 

You'll have to be more specific.

AlCzervik

ilikepinktacos

Colin20G

chess has nothing to do with ZFC, not to mention functor-related stuff.

amilton542

Of course chess and maths are related. A computer wouldn't be able to play chess otherwise.