does anand go down as the greatest player of all time

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Well, blunders can work out quite well at a certain level of play.

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pfren wrote:

Petrosian had blundered his Queen in one move.

Kramnik blundered mate in one.

Spassky has blundered a piece is three different instances.

Anand has blundered a piece as early as move six.

Chigorin was effectively self-mated in one move.

Karpov has blundered a trivial fork in one move.

Kasparov blundered a piece against Karpov.

Fischer blundered a rook against Najdorf.

And the list goes on.

The only persons who don't blunder, are the critics in this thread, as well as other analogous ones. This is natural: Idiots are immune to blunders.

What I deduce from this is that

1. Blunders mean you cannot be one of the Greatest.

2. This list of blunders does not include Morpy or Tal.

So greatest player of all time Must be Tal, Morphy, or one of the critics on this thread.

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pseudo-creep wrote:

What I deduce from this is that

1. Blunders mean you cannot be one of the Greatest.

2. This list of blunders does not include Morpy or Tal.

So greatest player of all time Must be Tal, Morphy, or one of the critics on this thread.

Morphy never had the time to blunder; his opponents came there first.

Tal blundered in virtually every game, but his opponents failed to notice... Tongue Out

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yeres30 wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:
yeres30 wrote:

The blunder that Carlsen made and which Anand failed to see is a basic chess tactic - the in-between move or Zwischenzug.

What's your point? Which world champion do you think is better than Carlsen?

The point is simply this -

Carlsen and Anand are not worthy of the title for making  and not seeing a basic chess tactic blunder in a world title match only a patzer can make.

Thank you for registering your opinion, random pretentious puzzle posting putz on the internet.

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"The point is simply this -

Carlsen and Anand are not worthy of the title for making and not seeing as basic chess tactic blunder in a world title match only a patzer can make.

You probably could have played a better move than Carlsen and Anand for one move in one game. For every other move? Yeah, right.

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NotAllowedTo wrote:
yeres30 wrote:

The premise of the critism is  that ----Anand does not and cannot qualify as being one the greatest for failure in a World Championship match to see a beginner's basic chess pattern

hey I hate the expression but: are u fo' real man?

+1

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yeres30 wrote:

a world championship match is the very top most level of competition

Your idea that a world championship match's games always represent the peak performance of an individual is too simplistic. 

A world championship match is for the highest title, and the players must have the best play to reach that match, but it doesn't mean during the match their play is their peak performance.  Due to stress I would imagine a slightly lower performance as far as miscalculation and oversights when compared to normal tournaments.

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Anand will beat Carlsen

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Indiachessking wrote:

Anand will beat Carlsen

Errrm... In two matches, Anand has been soundly defeated twice. 

I have no doubt that Anand will beat Carlsen again at some point. They play each other often enough. But, to paraphrase a great movie. 

What's Anand gonna do, BLEED on Carlsen?

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The FIDE split really chewed  & churned Vishy in the 90s. Otherwise would have seen more of him ,maybe a rematch against Kasparov .Need to remember unlike the Kasaparovs and Kramniks, he was much of a lone gun slinger during that time.

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His career isn't at an end. Winding down, and possibly just going slowly downhill from now on, but not at an end. But greatest player of all time? My opinion is no. But opinions are like mouths. Everyone has one, and they are always right in the mind of the owner. Wink