Does chess have beatiful female players????

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polydiatonic wrote:
Atos wrote:

polydiatonic, you are at least as much pain in the azz as the OP by now. Both of you sound like two kids arguing, except he has an excuse that it's not his first language while you don't have even that one.


I'm sorry that your azz hurts, there are medications for that ;)  At least give me credit for trying to fight the good fight here, even if I'm arguing with a meathead, or perhaps a "birdbrain".

 


It's not strictly speaking the azz but the lower back, and I am not in Asia where there are massages for that. Laughing Makes me irritable.

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NrthrnKnght wrote:

I think the entire russian womens team is quite beautiful.Something about that country!


Each person has his/her own beauty standars, but at least it's the strongest team in the world. Wink

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Natalia_Pogonina wrote:
NrthrnKnght wrote:

I think the entire russian womens team is quite beautiful.Something about that country!


Each person has his/her own beauty standars, but at least it's the strongest team in the world.


 woo hooo!  you go girl :)

(but it will be the Moroccan Team in the future!)

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Polydiatonic@Keep on BARKING....i simply dnt care .....in fact I m enjoying ur MADNESS at me.......lol
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@Frendu I hope you don't write like this in your engineering exams or in your resume when you apply for a job. This style of writing is more appropriate in SMSes and Twitter where there is shortage of space, and in chat-rooms where you need to type fast. That is not the case here. I don't know why you insist on writing like this even when others have repeatedly complained about it. How many members have you seen using SMS lingo so extensively in any of the threads in this forum?

It's a bit like going for a job interview in a t-shirt, a pair of tattered jeans and scruffy hair: you might be a brilliant engineer but your appearance would leave a very bad impression and you would be unlikely to get hired.

So I seriously advise you to take a few more seconds to write complete words and spare us the task of deciphering what you write.

Having said that, I think the response to the original question has been a big over-reaction.

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LisaV wrote:

Ooo la la, I'd loooove to see some chess STUDS from Mumbai.  Thank god Frendu posted his pic.......

Oh, how awkward.


Here you go. Isn't he handsome? But I'm afraid I don't know his chess rating.

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Not any more... one of them just got pinned

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Horned Owl@Well i agree with what u say....i have seen your blog related to the usage of short cut words in english......u seem to be an expert in the correct use of the language......but i think forum is not like a blog or essay or exam where formality to write each and every word is required (i may b wrong here).......so we should be allowed to use some common short cut words as it saves some time and energy....u knw it also feels boring to type each and every letter of long words again and again.....anyway thanks for a nice piece of advice :)
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Much better, now add a little white space in place of the ellipses and you're in business.

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If the form of a post conveys that you care about what you are writing, and shows respect for the reader by being comprehensible, then you're more likely to be taken seriously.

Line breaks, decent spelling.

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goldendog wrote:

If the form of a post conveys that you care about what you are writing, and shows respect for the reader by being comprehensible, then you're more likely to be taken seriously.

Line breaks, decent spelling.


Mr. Dog if you're going to aim so high please include some essentials I've been hoping to see: perpetual motion, peace on Earth, some form of energy that doesn't pollute, a beer keg in my house that never runs dry, etc.  I mean really. As long as we're wishing let's get serious.

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TheGrobe wrote:

Much better, now add a little white space in place of the ellipses and you're in business.


Seconded.

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Here is another great looking player!

 

 

     She is just waiting for a game!

 

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I think its high time to say, "THREAD HIJACKED"
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Laughing

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you just revived a dead thread proclaiming how stupid it was. Good luck. 

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This thread isn't dead. It just smells funny.

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Kirstiec@I dnt think this thread is that lame afterall....if that wud hav been the case,then i dont think it cud hav travelld such a long journey of 400 comments and 10000 views......its like calling a 'MARATHON WINNER' as lame....(here i may sound as if i m enjoyng this thread but d fact is that its been a nuthng more than a headache 4 me as i hav wasted much of my PRECIOUS time in givin explanation 2 others all d time......) ANYWAY WE ALL CANT HAV A SIMILAR VIEW ON ANY TOPIC.....TO DIFFER IS OUR BIRTHRIGHT.....havng said that i wud hav been much more happy if u wud hav undrstood my point.
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Stevedavenati@ u realy made me laugh with what u said :-)
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The  New York Times


November 27, 2005

Sex and Chess. Is She a Queen or a Pawn?

VANESS REID, a 16-year-old student from Sydney, Australia, runs cross-country, plays touch football, enjoys in-line skating, swims and goes bodyboarding. She also has a cerebral side: she plays competitive chess. She represented Australia at a tournament in Malaysia in 2002 and played in a tournament in New Zealand this year.

While Ms. Reid is clearly no novice at the game, she isn't exactly taking it by storm. She is not on the World Chess Federation's list of the world's 50 top female players. In fact she is ranked 47,694th among both men and women. But Ms. Reid, who has auburn hair, light-blue eyes and a winning smile, is arguably the top player in the world based on a more subjective criterion: her looks. A Web site called World Chess Beauty Contest (www.1wcbc.com) ranks her as the world's most beautiful woman in the game.

The site was started earlier this year by Vladislav Tkachiev, 32, a Kazakh grandmaster who is ranked 83rd in the world, and his brother, Eugeny, 39. The younger Mr. Tkachiev, who appears in photos to be well-built and boyish looking, said they had started the site to raise the profile of the game. "Chess desperately needs some glamour," Mr. Tkachiev said. The brothers are not the only ones trying to inject some glamour, or at least sex appeal, into the game. Alexandra Kosteniuk, 21, a dark-haired, porcelain-skinned Russian grandmaster who is ranked fifth in the world among women and 525th over all, models and uses her Web site to sell photos of herself posing in bikinis next to giant chess pieces.

Maria Manakova, 31, who is the fourth-ranked woman in Russia and who is ranked eighth on the Beauty Contest site, attracted attention last year when she posed nude for Speed, a Russian magazine. She followed it up by posing for Maxim and the Russian edition of Playboy.

The efforts to spice up the game mainly emanate from Eastern Europe, whose players have long dominated the sport and where cheesecake displays are less likely to draw complaints about the exploitation and the objectification of women.

And capitalizing on sex appeal is also not exactly a new idea in competitive sports. Before Ms. Reid, tennis had Anna Kournikova and beach volleyball had Gabrielle Reese and soccer had Mia Hamm.

But chess?

Mr. Tkachiev said that the people who do not play the game have a wrong opinion about chess. "They think that it is only a game for those who are quite inactive and unattractive and aged," he said. "It is simply not true. This is a very democratic game for anyone. There are a lot of attractive people, whether female or male. We decided to show this side of chess."

So the stereotypes are wrong and always have been? Not exactly. "In general there are much more women in chess than before," Mr. Tkachiev said.

Other players agree. Steve Immitt has directed chess tournaments around the United States for more than two decades. In recent years, he said, he has noticed not only that there are more women playing but that they are better and more attractive.

Still, women are vastly outnumbered in tournaments. So their participation can be a distraction, drawing crowds around them, Mr. Immitt said. They can also distract their male opponents, some of whom do fit the stereotype that Mr. Tkachiev disputed. Mr. Immitt recalled a tournament in Daytona Beach, Fla., in which a male player complained that his female opponent was a distraction. Mr. Immitt went to investigate.

"She was distracting," he said. "But there was nothing I could do. It was the beginning of April, right after spring break, and she was dressed appropriately for the time of year. It wasn't anything against the law. I told the guy, 'You are going to have to call upon yourself to overcome the distraction.' He ended up losing the game anyway, but I am not sure that was from being distracted."

One indisputably attractive woman who plays chess is the supermodel Carmen Kass, who was elected president of the Estonian Chess Federation last year and is dating Eric Lobron, a German grandmaster. But if Ms. Kass draws stares, it is not at the playing tables; she does not compete.

That is not the case for Ms. Kosteniuk, 21, however. Many elite players agree that if there is an equivalent of Ms. Kournikova in chess, it is Ms. Kosteniuk. She dislikes the comparison, saying that she works harder at her game than Ms. Kournikova did at tennis and that she has had more success.

Still, the comparisons are inevitable. Like Ms. Kournikova, Ms. Kosteniuk trades on her looks, modeling and selling her bikini-clad image through her Web site. But Ms. Kosteniuk (pronounced KOS-ten-yuke) said she did not think that people treated her less seriously because of it. To the contrary, she said, the photos helped promote the game by showing that women could be both beautiful and smart.

Ms. Kosteniuk has appeared in many magazines, including European editions of Vogue and Marie Claire. And as part of an ad campaign for LG Computers, she appears on billboards in Moscow and St. Petersburg playing chess on a laptop computer. But she said that she was careful about how she dressed when in competition against men. "I don't dress provocatively," she said. "I don't wear perfume."

Her modeling work does not bother Jennifer Shahade, 24, a two-time United States women's champion who has just published a book about her experiences as a woman playing a game dominated by men. Ms. Shahade, who says she is a feminist, said Ms. Kosteniuk was good for chess.

But she said she also regretted that women who play the game were often judged on their looks. If two well-known female players compete on the Internet Chess Club (www.chessclub.com), a popular Web site, she said, "a large percentage of the comments are about how hot the women are."

She was also less than enthusiastic about the chess beauty contest site. "If you are going to emphasize the beauty of women chess players," she said, "at least do it very well. If you look at the site, people won't come away thinking this is very classy."

Nigel Short, 40, an English grandmaster who is ranked 32nd in the world, is an "arbiter" on the chess beauty site. While he could not really define that role, he said the site was meant to be good-natured. On a page with a photo of Ms. Manakova covered in soap taking a bath, Mr. Short wrote: "Lovely bathroom tiles. Where can I buy them?"

Mr. Short also said that the site was meant to help promote women's chess. "How many women can play chess at a high level?" Mr. Short said. "There is precisely one, Judit Polgar. If you want to promote women's chess on its own, then you have to do something like this."

The eighth-ranked player on the site, Ms. Manakova, 31, drew attention but also criticism when she posed nude in the men's magazines. Ms. Manakova said she thought the publicity might help women's chess. And she was emphatic in asserting that she would never try to use her sex appeal in competition.

Has she ever tried to distract a male opponent during a game? "No," she said. "I don't need to distract my opponent or do something. I can do it after the game if I want. During the game I just want to play good chess."