Does taking valium help playing chess?

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Nekhemevich
Ha ha. I see what you did there.
briansladovich
Nekhemevich wrote:
Well... Glad we cleared that up. Benzodiazepines and coffee=bad. Now for a shot of whiskey. ;$

Cool     SALUTE !     Whiskey shot — Stock Photo © Mustang_79 #2392008

Nekhemevich
We could discuss the implications of government regulation of harmful substances, but the truth is the government makes money off of illegal substances more so than legal.
Nekhemevich
Cheers!
Nekhemevich
Yes because it's one thing to enforce public safety, but why do we enforce such harsh penalties that only lead to recidivism and higher taxes.
Darth_Algar
briansladovich wrote:
CensoredReality wrote:
Caffeine is just as much of a drug as anything else. Its legality is irrelevant. My advice for everyone - RESEARCH EXTENSIVELY before putting any drug into your body, legal or not, prescription or not, recommended by doctor or not etc.... Don't trust or distrust things just because of their legality. Smoking weed every day will be massively better for your health than drinking coffee every day. And not all drugs are bad. You just have to be cautious and aware of the inevitable downsides that come with the ups.

   It's legality is totally relevant as to whether it's use should be considered cheating or not. But, thanks for sharing your views on experimenting with drugs

So if I have a prescription for valium then it's not cheating, but if I don't then it is cheating? The effects are the same ether way, so what difference should a slip of paper make?

Pulpofeira

It doesn't. It's all about surpassing or not the levels officially established for each substance.

BigKingBud

Not for a long term situation.  It will dull your mind, in a way that is not fit for chess. 

Also, caffeine is not a "drug".  That is like saying sugar is a drug.  They are both stimulants, and substances, but they are not drugs.
As far as proof, in the definition of drug, it will always say, "foods are generally excluded from the definition."

frankooo

I have been using cannabis for decades....no nerve problems,no common colds,no anti-social behavior,no insomnia problems,no pain and no sexual problems...only problem I have is our governments inability to legalize the herb...

Darth_Algar
BigKingBud wrote:

Not for a long term situation.  It will dull your mind, in a way that is not fit for chess. 

Also, caffeine is not a "drug".  That is like saying sugar is a drug.  They are both stimulants, and substances, but they are not drugs.
As far as proof, in the definition of drug, it will always say, "foods are generally excluded from the definition."

In that case then brownies made with THC butter shouldn't be considered a drug either. That's the problem when you try to adhere rigidly to legal statues or textbook definitions in debates like these.

bigpoison

Ether?  That's terrible stuff.  Much better to stick with your brownies.

Darth_Algar
bigpoison wrote:

Ether?  That's terrible stuff.  Much better to stick with your brownies.

Typo, now corrected.

BlunderingBeaver

Just don't put magic mushrooms in your brownies.  The baking process will weaken the active chemicals and it would probably taste bad.  Just eat them raw.  Yum.

BlunderingBeaver

I prefer tea too.  I put a few grams of dried mushies in a tea bag along with some lemon and ginger.  Boil water.  Pour water over tea bag in mug.  Cover for twenty minutes.  Drink.

Nekhemevich

Capital punishment and the unjustly accused.

Prison has grown exponentially over the last few decades. Rather than fix the problem, we sanction the lives of drug offenders making it near impossible for them to live. Why is this you may ask? It is near impossible for them to find a well paying job, or sign a lease agreement on an apartment when they get out. It reminds me of Hugo's book le miserables. A man who feels compelled to break the law, seeks forgiveness in an uncompromising society. One stupid mistake will have a negative consequence that will last indefinitely. This is why we need more social programs to help people overcome addiction, and stop throwing minor drug offenses in prison.

briansladovich
Darth_Algar wrote:
briansladovich wrote:
CensoredReality wrote:
Caffeine is just as much of a drug as anything else. Its legality is irrelevant. My advice for everyone - RESEARCH EXTENSIVELY before putting any drug into your body, legal or not, prescription or not, recommended by doctor or not etc.... Don't trust or distrust things just because of their legality. Smoking weed every day will be massively better for your health than drinking coffee every day. And not all drugs are bad. You just have to be cautious and aware of the inevitable downsides that come with the ups.

   It's legality is totally relevant as to whether it's use should be considered cheating or not. But, thanks for sharing your views on experimenting with drugs

So if I have a prescription for valium then it's not cheating, but if I don't then it is cheating? The effects are the same ether way, so what difference should a slip of paper make?

Cool    Well if you've been prescribed it by a doctor for a medical condition, you're legally entitled to posses and take it. So, that's the difference the slip of paper makes and if you don't like it, don't have a go at me, see your congressman and start a campaign.

If it should be considered cheating under these conditions, I really don't know but, probably not !

BigKingBud
CensoredReality wrote:
Caffeine is not a food.

But caffeine is not 'really' a drug.  I mean, it is 'literally' classified as a drug. But, it isn't comparable to THC, benzodiazepines, cocaine, alchohol, opiates, or any of the more commonly highly abused substances considered to be 'drugs'.
I would say caffeine is on scale with nicotine.  Addictive indeed, but not in as harmful of a way as most 'drugs'. Definitely a 'physical stimulant', but not exactly a 'mind warper'("whoa man, this caffeine is da bomb dog").  Also, there aren't any real 'side effects' to using caffeine.  The only real negative side effects associated with nicotine, are actually wrapped up in smoking tobacco itself, a leaf that even has hallucinogenic properties in it(Tobacco contains the harmala alkaloids harman, and norharman), and in high doses, over long periods of use, can severely destroy the human body.

BigKingBud
CensoredReality wrote:
Like I said, caffeine is more harmful than THC physically, so where is your argument?

I don't use caffeine actually.  I believe it is harmful, but so is most tap water.  As far as caffeine being "more harmful than THC," that is ridiculous.  Smoking pot burns brain cells LIKE CRAZY.  It leads to a lower IQ. 
If you smoke pot EVERYDAY, you are gonna be A LOT dumber(in general) than if you don't.  However, if you drink caffeine EVERYDAY, I mean, it really doesn't do much of anything to people.
Getting high on pot, coke, crack and "drugs" like this, that is A TON more "different" than using caffeine.
Your arguement is RIDICULOUS!

bigpoison

It's really interesting reading these researchers discussing which drugs are the most harmful.

trysts

Especially when drinking coffee and Baileys while smoking one;)