If the difference was not that big, I would say they are lazy... but they may be cheating since that's way too big of a gap.
My live chess rating is 1200 and my online one is 1600. The difference? I don't think much when I play live and just do it whenever I want to kill some time. Online chess, I take my time to think through my moves.... well sometimes.
With Online chess, you have the opportunity to use the analysis board. Once you log on, you have a chance to assess all your possible moves, anticipate potential mistakes by your opponent, and develop your position accordingly. I've found checkmates that are 3-6 moves out during online chess (by using the analysis board) that I know I would not have seen the exact development during a live chess games. Sure, the best players can see all the things in a live game that a less experienced player (like myself) uses the analysis board to see, but many players aren't that advanced (yet). The end result is a higher rating in online chess than in live chess.
Just my $0.02. I'm still learning, and am no expert.
It's probably because they spend a lot of time on each move, maybe 6-7 minutes thinking every possible capture, combination etc. They may be completely new to blitz chess. They may have gotten lucky with some games in online chess and hence their high rating.
Cheating is one thing, there are some players that try to use chess engines while they play, or maybe they only use it when they are in trouble. They can't do it in live chess unless it's over 6-7 min games. But this is a small minority.
Everyone has a "turn-based" rating several hundred points higher than their live chess by the way. The tons of beginners that fill up the lower ranks of turn-based evidently don't play on live chess making a live chess rating harder to bring up (also making the live chess rating more realistic).
Looking at your recent games only one user really fits what you're saying, but it's hard to tell if they were cheating during those games because you made blunders I bet you don't even make in live chess :) Your live chess and turn based ratings are so close in fact, it doesn't seem like you're paying much attention to your turn based games, walking into one move forks and skewers. Many people actually set up their turn based positions on a board/analysis board and move pieces around and think about it for many minutes, it seems like you're just blitzing them right off the screen. With a standard live chess rating in 1600s you should easily have a turn based in the 1800-1900s from what I've seen.
If the difference was not that big, I would say they are lazy... but they may be cheating since that's way too big of a gap.
My live chess rating is 1200 and my online one is 1600. The difference? I don't think much when I play live and just do it whenever I want to kill some time. Online chess, I take my time to think through my moves.... well sometimes.
thats not even close to the difference the OP is talking about.
If the difference was not that big, I would say they are lazy... but they may be cheating since that's way too big of a gap.
My live chess rating is 1200 and my online one is 1600. The difference? I don't think much when I play live and just do it whenever I want to kill some time. Online chess, I take my time to think through my moves.... well sometimes.
thats not even close to the difference the OP is talking about.
Hence why I said 'if the difference was not that big...'
I have never seen such a large difference. For those cases you have seen there are two possible explanations:
1. They only played 1 or 2 live games, so they never had a chance to progress.
2. If you played against them and they are weak in live games, then the most likely explanation is "Copy FEN position" to whetever chess engine they have.
You also need to take a look at the percentile of each rating. For instance, my correspondence rating is currently 2141 which puts me in the 97.8% percentile. My live ratings are between 1550 and 1650 which puts them in the 95% to 96.5% percentiles. As you can see, based on this information the ratings are a true reflection of my current strenght compared to the other players in each category. The difference in percentile is so small that it can be down to coincidence, me being better at one than the other, a bad period of form etc.
If someone is 2500 in correspondence and only 1200 in live then there is clearly cause for concern. Likewise if someone is 1000 in bullet and 1900 in blitz then there is cause for concern too. I once played a guy over 2 minutes and crushed him easily three times, his grade was around 1300 or so. I then agreed to his offer of playing over 5 minutes and was alarmed to see his grade was around 1850 or so. Turns out his play was immaculate and he was using an engine against me, the only reason his rating was so "low" (which 1850 is for an engine) is because he had only played 5 games... and guess what; he had won five games.
I'd say that, assuming reasonably equal amounts of effort are applied, if you take live rating and add on 400 to 600 elo (depending on which you are better at) then you will get a fairly reliable appreciation of both grades.
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i dont understand how people who have 1300-1400 rankings on live chess have 2200-2300 on online chess and do not make 1 mistake yet wen u play them 15 min. live chess u smoke them out of the water