Done with this site for playing chess...

After a long time playing here, I just had enough. Playing against site generated bots is just out of hand here. I understand that sites like this one need those so people have enough players to play with. But, recently, 1600 bots are playing like 2000 players. Site was always changing settings on those and every once in a while things would go out of hand. For the last month or so, things are completely out of hand. My rating here used to be in 1900s and 2000s. On other sites, I have similar ratings (Li is around 2100 right now) to those. Here, I am in now in low 1600s and mostly play against similarly rated players! Those players fit levels from barely know how to play, someone that plays at 2000 level, to games that I loose with opponent having more then 30 sec left on their clock. And, I play almost exclusively 1 min games here. Unless this site figures out how to tune their bots to play consistently at whatever level they are set to play, I am out of here. Good luck!

bye

One day, the question will no longer be, 'Are you an ape who plays the piano?' but rather, 'How well do you play the piano?

The site does not use bots in the player pools. You're playing other member accounts.

I am playing chess because it is fun for me! Playing bots, as much as there is that learning component there, is not fun!

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you!

It's the truth so.

Buddy, chess.com does not pair you with a bot. They are real people, feel free to leave, but I love this place and I am going to stay...

Definitly didn't get it?

If they were bots then why aren’t they playing at the same level? Bots are more consistent than people. You never know if the person if having a good or bad day, and that might affect their performance.

Have you ever re-trained your AI model once you change few params? From what you are saying, it doesn't look like it...

There can not be that much fluctuation between the players and especially not at the 1600 level. And, this is a nice place and it has a lot of good info people can learn a lot. My complain is just about playing games and I am fed up with that part!

people cheat, bots don't. I mean there wouldn't logically be any value to intentionally program bots to play better.

Oh, okay.

I consistently play badly at all sites and against all bots. I lose just the same amount of time at all sites, which means bots at my level beat me all the same. I never know which is a bot or which is a real player; only when they make a blunder do I see it. So is your point that you are playing bots at all? Or is it that you can't win against bots that are of the same ranking as you? or is it maybe they don't tell you in advance you are playing a bot , and when you lose you get mad and take your marbles and go home.

To be honest, I don't know who makes the players play like bots would do in the live section. But, the type of the games they play there points to some huge discrepancy for the playing level. The only problem is that those players are all rated in 1600s and they should not play at that level, and not like that. To go from one game were opponent barely knows how to play chess to the next one where I loose and they have more then 30 sec left on the clock. Other examples are where games start pretty poorly, but closer to the end game, they start playing like they are 2000+ all of the sudden. Humans don't do that!

Chess.com does not pair you against bots. Sometimes players have good and bad days which is the cause of the performance swings you are describing.

sometimes people cheat, that's why.

Perhaps you are correct there. But, I am playing on Li.com and I don't see such a big fluctuations there - this is the only site that has it at this level and I am just too tired of it. For months, I was playing with 1900s rating and sometimes it would dip into 1800s and sometimes I would be in 2000s. Since the month or so ago, I am at 1600s level, while at the LI.com, I am still where I was most of the time - 2100 that is, with dips into 1900s and 2200s on the other end. Something is wrong here and the only explanation I have is that bots are messing with everything here and I decided to take a break from playing here.

I get it they are not bots. But are there shadow pools? For "sus" players with no conclusive evidence to ban them, so they get moved into a different player pool, where they play others in similar situation?

These issues in the elo ladder have been brought up a tens of times, plenty of examples of games against players who play way beyond the average expected play level.