eglun wrote:
so whats the drug that would make them to play better? just curious :P
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I have no idea as to what drug FIDE is on the look out for. Anyone have the answer?
eglun wrote:
so whats the drug that would make them to play better? just curious :P
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I have no idea as to what drug FIDE is on the look out for. Anyone have the answer?
Tapani wrote:
The tests are a nuicance to the players, with the only purpose of making FIDE look good.
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Where are the tests conducted?
olichris wrote:
Modafinil, Memantine, Piracetam, maybe stimulants such as Ritalin, anyone who takes these without a prescription however is playing a very dangerous game.
Do not use these unless properly prescribed and never try buying over the net, you take a big risk with your mental wellbeing if you do !
Olichris
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Modafinil
Prescription drug
Consult a doctor if you have a medical concern.
Improves daytime wakefulness in people with uncontrollable sleepiness caused by narcolepsy or sleep apnea. Also used in people who are sleep deprived from working odd hours such as a night shift.
I wonder if that 5 hour energy drink is on the list? It's more than just coffee. It has a bunch of chemicals/stimulants in it. Rockstar, Redbull and Monster energy drinks come to mind. There are a ton of people out there all hyped up on that stuff!
Have you seen anyone at a tournament with those energy drinks at the chess tables? Are they permitted at the tables? Anand has his cup of green tea sitting on the table. Interesting how Carlsen has no beverage beside him. I guess because he is young, he doesn't need the caffeine. :)
During one of the games' live streams, Lawrence Trent was asked a question in regards to doping. He said that as Chess is a recognised sport under the International Olympic Committee (IOC), FIDE must follow all anti-doping laws from WADA as this is what the IOC follow. This is just protocol, as there would be minimal performance enhancing drugs for a sport such as chess. GM Abhijeet Gupta was also on this commentary panel and said that while he was participating in the Chess Olympiad he was not drug tested but he knew of WGM Susan Polgar taking such tests.
Amphetamines and methamphetamines. In low doses these can increase alertness and concentration and fight fatigue - much more effectively than coffee!
Many people are under the false impression that drugs can only be used to enhance physical performance and nothing else. This is anything but the truth. Type "nootropics" into your favorite search engine and read up.
Here's the subreddit if you want a link.
http://en.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/
I wonder if that 5 hour energy drink is on the list? It's more than just coffee. It has a bunch of chemicals/stimulants in it. Rockstar, Redbull and Monster energy drinks come to mind. There are a ton of people out there all hyped up on that stuff!
Have you seen anyone at a tournament with those energy drinks at the chess tables? Are they permitted at the tables? Anand has his cup of green tea sitting on the table. Interesting how Carlsen has no beverage beside him. I guess because he is young, he doesn't need the caffeine. :)
I have just found a photo of WGM Tania Sachdev with a Red Bull on her table so I believe that they must be permitted. Here is the photo if you are interested;
https://twitter.com/TaniaSachdev/status/394173833844109312/photo/1
In regards to your comment on tea, I believe it is actually a black tea and not green tea. This was stated by Kanmani Ventakesh, who prepares this tea for Anand. Black tea contains a higher content of caffeine which might be one of the reasons for this as well as taste.
There were energy drinks visible in Carlsen's refrigerator when Susan Polgar took viewers through the facility.
An article by Bill Wall has some useful information:
The 2008 post-game press conferences of the World Chess Championship were delayed by more than half an hour as each player, Viswanathan Anand and Vladimir Kramnik, had to take their mandatory drug tests. Anand called it completely pointless and said drug testing was made for other sports, but not chess. On October 21, 2008, the two players had to have two separate press conferences as Kramnik finished his drug testing before Anand, who had trouble producing a urine sample.
Even the seconds (assistants) for the two Grandmasters were tested for drugs, even though they were not playing. Their drug tests were considered out-of-competition tests.
The drug testing in chess is part of the FIDE chess deal (supported by FIDE president Kirsan Ilyumzhinov) to make chess a sport recognized by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) so that chess can be part of the Sports Olympics. Currently, the IOC does not accept chess or other “mind sports” as part of the Olympics because they entail no physical exertion. They are also reducing rather than increasing the number of Olympic sports. Bowling, racquetball, water skiing, polo, ballroom dancing, surfing, billiards, and squash are currently rejected as an Olympic sport.
Chapter 14 of the FIDE rules deals with doping and drug use.
14.1. FIDE, in close collaboration with the National Chess Federations, the International Olympic Committee and the National Olympic Committees dedicates its efforts to ensuring that in chess the spirit of ‘Fair Play’ prevails, leads the fight against doping in sport and takes measures in order to prevent endangering the health of competitors. FIDE has accepted the World Anti-Doping Code and its international standards. Within FIDE the body responsible for this policy is the Medical Commission.
14.2. The Commission will agree from time to time, with the International bodies, on the list of prohibited substances and methods of doping that are applicable to chess players. The Commission will be responsible for the Anti-Doping regulations and their execution.
No drugs have ever proven to enhance chess performance by chess players. And so-called memory drugs (if there is such a thing) are not even tested. Research carried out by the Dutch Chess Federation has not produced a single substance that could be considered performance enhancing. Dr. Helmut Pfleger, a Grandmaster and medical doctor (internist and psychotherapist) from Munich, has been conducting experiments of chess players for over 30 years. He says, “Both mentally stimulating and mentally calming medication have too many negative side effects.” Pfleger tested the effects of drugs such as beta-blockers on himself in 1979, in a match with former world chess champion Boris Spassky. Pfleger said, “My blood pressure and pulse plunged, and my game fell apart completely.”
Chess players are tested for drugs that appear on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) banned list. There are more than 100 substances on the banned list. This includes steroids, Erythropoietin (EPO), amphetamines, diuretics, tranquilizers, beta blockers, cocaine, Ventolin inhalers, etc. This list also includes excess levels of alcohol and cannabis, and, at one time, coffee (caffeine was removed from the WADA list in 2004.
Some countries do not recognize the drug testing for chess players. The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) does not consider chess a sport and their chess players are not tested.
The U.S. Olympic Committee (USOC) also rejects chess as a sport. Mandatory or random drug testing is prohibited at all USCF-rated events. USCF’s FIDE representatives are instructed to campaign against the practices of requiring drug testing at any chess tournament or match.
The first country to support drug testing for chess players was Germany. In 1992, under pressure from the German Sports Federation, the German Chess Federation introduced doping rules in order to qualify for financial assistance for chess.
In 1999, FIDE enforced drug testing in all major FIDE events such as the world championship, Chess Olympiad, or national championship.
The Spanish Chess Federation receives around $320,000 a year from the Council of Sports to test chess players at random during team tournaments and their national championship.
In 2001, a drug test during an Italian tournament resulted in a positive test for an Italian player. He had been taking a common asthma drug. Months later, he was cleared of any wrongdoing after he showed a medical reason for taking the drug.
The 2002 Bled Olympiad was the first to test for drugs through a urine sample. All 802 players passed. GM Jan Timman of the Netherlands refused to play in protest to the drug testing.
In 2004, two players had their scores erased at the 36th World Team Championship (Chess Olympiad) in Calvia, Spain, because they refused to comply with a random drug tested demanded by FIDE. Immediately following her win in the last round, Susan Polgar was “randomly” selected to take a drug test. She had just won the best performance award of the entire Women’s Olympiad in Calvia, Spain.
In 2008, Grandmaster Manuel Rivas-Pastor, a three-time former Spanish national champion, was disqualified from the Spanish Chess Championship for refusing to take part in a drug test.
The current FIDE Medical Commission chairperson responsible for enforcing the drug testing is Dr. Jana Bellin, a Woman Grandmaster.
Historically, drug testing in the Olympics came about after an incident. At the 1960 Summer Olympic Games in Rome, a cyclist died of an overdose of amphetamines. Afterwards, an IOC Medical Commission was born to test athletes for drugs.
Perhaps the only death attributed to drugs is the case of British player Jessie Gilbert. She was a 19-year-old chess prodigy who plunged to her death from her 8th floor hotel room in Prague. Organizers of the chess tournament she was playing in (Czech Open Chess Championship) believe she committed suicide. She left no note, but medication for depression was found in her room. At age 12, she won the Women’s World Amateur Championship, the youngest player ever to do so.
In 2008, at the Dresden Chess Olympiad, there was a high proportion of drug tests that were scheduled during the last round. GM Vassily Ivanchuk (pictured), ranked #3 in the world at the time, lost his last round game and refused to take a drug test. He was threatened with a two-year ban by FIDE. It was later learned that there was a lack of personnel to administer the drug tests and there was not a designated Doping Control Officer present at the match. Due to a procedural error, Ivanchuk was not penalized.
Several years ago, GM Robert Huebner stopped playing for the German national chess team in protest against doping tests. He considers doping tests for chess players to be a bureaucratic show of power, and that the tests are degrading.
– Bill Wall
Now that I realize these doping controls are actually rather expensive, I am completely opposed. How utterly pointless.
Good to know Australian sports associations have the right attitude towards chess, and are not spending any money on this useless charade.
What on earth is Ivanchuk doing?
Ziryab, thanks for the information. After a first read, I get the impression that drug testing chess players is all about the Olympics, and not about the possibility of cheating by taking drugs. Below, a doctor tried it as an experiment, and found that drugs made his play worse.
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No drugs have ever proven to enhance chess performance by chess players. And so-called memory drugs (if there is such a thing) are not even tested. Research carried out by the Dutch Chess Federation has not produced a single substance that could be considered performance enhancing. Dr. Helmut Pfleger, a Grandmaster and medical doctor (internist and psychotherapist) from Munich, has been conducting experiments of chess players for over 30 years. He says, “Both mentally stimulating and mentally calming medication have too many negative side effects.” Pfleger tested the effects of drugs such as beta-blockers on himself in 1979, in a match with former world chess champion Boris Spassky. Pfleger said, “My blood pressure and pulse plunged, and my game fell apart completely.”
JamesMelville wrote:
I have just found a photo of WGM Tania Sachdev with a Red Bull on her table so I believe that they must be permitted.
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Oh, her! The beautiful young woman who sits next to Lawrence Trent during the broadcast. :)
JamesMelville wrote:
I have just found a photo of WGM Tania Sachdev with a Red Bull on her table so I believe that they must be permitted.
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They always list Tania as an IM during the broadcast. WGM, IM, I don't care. Her and Lawrence make a great broadcast team.
I hope ephedra isn't on the list, it's just about the only thing left that will actually help you lose weight. It suppresses appetite and raises metabolism. It works really well with bitter orange too.
Many people are under the false impression that drugs can only be used to enhance physical performance and nothing else. This is anything but the truth.
Yes, and many people are under the false impression that performance enhancing substances would help you only during the game.
In reality, you can use drugs to prepare yourself before going to the event.
so whats the drug that would make them to play better? just curious :P