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AlexMids
Hi can someone please explain how I can win when the other player just has their King? Like how many moves do I get until it ends up a Draw and why does it not just let me keep going until I reach Checkmate? Thanks kind peeps x
tygxc

@1

"when the other player just has their King? "
++ Learn the 5 basic checkmates.
Capablanca covers these in his Chess Fundamentals or in his A Primer of Chess.

  1. KQ vs. K is easy, you can do it in 9 moves, but you have to look out for stalemate.
    Centralise your king and drive his king to the edge.
  2. KR vs. K is a bit harder, but you can do it in 16 moves. Centralise your king and drive his king to the edge. You may have to make tempo moves with your rook.
  3. KBB vs. K is a bit harder and takes 30 moves. Drive the king to any corner.
  4. KBN vs. K is harder and takes 35 moves. You have to drive the king to a corner accessible to your bishop.
  5. KNN vs. K cannot force checkmate, but KNN vs. KP can in less than 50 moves if the pawn is not too far.
AlexMids

Wow thank you for this info. I have a question what do all the initials mean at the beginning of each one please?

tygxc

@3

K = King
Q = Queen
R = Rook
B = Bishop
N = Knight
P = Pawn

magipi
tygxc wrote:

++ Learn the 5 basic checkmates.

Those are far too advanced for this level.

At first, learning to checkmate with 2 rooks is enough.

Even more important is to learn what checkmate is and what stalemate is. It's very hard to play chess without knowing those.

AlexMids
tygxc wrote:

@3

K = King
Q = Queen
R = Rook
B = Bishop
N = Knight
P = Pawn

Ok wow I'm so confused lol.

AlexMids
magipi wrote:
tygxc wrote:

++ Learn the 5 basic checkmates.

Those are far too advanced for this level.

At first, learning to checkmate with 2 rooks is enough.

Even more important is to learn what checkmate is and what stalemate is. It's very hard to play chess without knowing those.

Hmm ok I think I now know what they both are?

V_Awful_Chess

Looking at your games, I don't think the reason you drew was due to move number. The one draw you have was because of stalemate. Not all draws are stalemates, but this one was.

These articles should help:

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8572743-how-do-draws-work

https://www.chess.com/article/view/stalemate-chess

Basically, stalemate (usually) occurs because can cannot legally move your king into check, but checkmate requires a king to be in check.

Your two queens and a bishop took all the legal squares away from your opponents king, but the king was not in check! They had nowhere to go, hence stalemate.

AlexMids
V_Awful_Chess wrote:

Looking at your games, I don't think the reason you drew was due to move number. The one draw you have was because of stalemate. Not all draws are stalemates, but this one was.

These articles should help:

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8572743-how-do-draws-work

https://www.chess.com/article/view/stalemate-chess

Basically, stalemate (usually) occurs because can cannot legally move your king into check, but checkmate requires a king to be in check.

Your two queens and a bishop took all the legal squares away from your opponents king, but the king was not in check! They had nowhere to go, hence stalemate.

Gosh thanks but this is soo confusing for my head I dont know why!?

AlexMids
bobby_max wrote:

Simps falling all over themselves to help a troll account. This person (if it's not a bot) asks goofy chess questions and then sees how many incels will try to help "her". And you nerds all fall for it.

Wth! Not again if you dont believe me then dont respond!

V_Awful_Chess

-I will note that most of the people who posted here also post in the "beginner" forum, where they give advice to all sorts of people.

-I will note that draws are the most controversial thing on chess.com , and as a result this thread will probably reach many, many pages, regardless of the OP's profile picture.

-I will note to the OP that you're always going to be getting comments like the above as long as you have your current profile picture. If I were you, I'd change it to a less 'summery' one.

magipi
AlexMids wrote:
magipi wrote:
tygxc wrote:

++ Learn the 5 basic checkmates.

Those are far too advanced for this level.

At first, learning to checkmate with 2 rooks is enough.

Even more important is to learn what checkmate is and what stalemate is. It's very hard to play chess without knowing those.

Hmm ok I think I now know what they both are?

Just google "stalemate" and you'll be surprised.

GeneralGrant

Chess.com also has a 50 move limit if no pawns are moved.

AlexMids

Unfortunately I still don't get Stalemate even after googling lol but thank you to all that responded.

tygxc

@15

'5.2.1 The game is drawn when the player to move has no legal move and his/her king is not in check. The game is said to end in ‘stalemate’. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the stalemate position was in accordance with Article 3 and Articles 4.2 – 4.7.'

Laws of Chess

AlexMids
tygxc wrote:

@15

'5.2.1 The game is drawn when the player to move has no legal move and his/her king is not in check. The game is said to end in ‘stalemate’. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the stalemate position was in accordance with Article 3 and Articles 4.2 – 4.7.'

Laws of Chess

Thanks but "no legal move" is the bit I dont understand? What is a legal move??

BigChessplayer665
AlexMids wrote:
Hi can someone please explain how I can win when the other player just has their King? Like how many moves do I get until it ends up a Draw and why does it not just let me keep going until I reach Checkmate? Thanks kind peeps x

Learn endgame fundamentals only box tor king in if they have extrea pieces

A few FIRST things to learn are

Rook vs king endgames

Queen vs king endgames

2 bishope endgames

1 pawn endgames

2, pawn endgames

There's allot more than that but those are the very basics of endgames

AlexMids

Ok I will look into these thank you x

Lord_Phan
AlexMids wrote:
tygxc wrote:

@15

'5.2.1 The game is drawn when the player to move has no legal move and his/her king is not in check. The game is said to end in ‘stalemate’. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the stalemate position was in accordance with Article 3 and Articles 4.2 – 4.7.'

Laws of Chess

Thanks but "no legal move" is the bit I dont understand? What is a legal move??

If I tried to move my knight one space ahead that would be an illegal move. If I tried to move my King into the path of a Queen where it would die that would be an illegal move. It just means that the player can make a move. If he has no moves and he is not in check it is a stalemate.

magipi
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
AlexMids wrote:
Hi can someone please explain how I can win when the other player just has their King? Like how many moves do I get until it ends up a Draw and why does it not just let me keep going until I reach Checkmate? Thanks kind peeps x

Learn endgame fundamentals only box tor king in if they have extrea pieces

A few FIRST things to learn are

Rook vs king endgames

Queen vs king endgames

2 bishope endgames

1 pawn endgames

2, pawn endgames

There's allot more than that but those are the very basics of endgames

Do you really think this is good advice? For someone who doesn't know what stalemate is or what a legal move is?