Elitism in chess? Opinions?

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Cameron_W20

Hello all, I am interested in doing a story on whether the claims of elitism in chess are true or not. I would love to hear peoples thoughts on this! 

Cameron_W20

I have not really experienced any myself but there are some who have said otherwise. I just wanted to get an idea on what others have to say!

CraigIreland

Your angle would have to be that higher rated players act in a superior manner towards lower rated players and then for context, to compare this behaviour to other games and sports. I don't envy you trying to research this and documenting a body of evidence to support your chosen hypothesis.

landloch

What are the claims of elitism in chess?

llama36

I remember ~2 years ago some streamer whined about elitism, so it became a hot topic for all of, you know, 1 week.

I always thought it was BS.

Test it out yourself... create a new account with a low starting rating (select "beginner" or whatever the lowest option is during account creation).

Play 10 games at rapid time control, and lose more than half of them... then make a topic in the beginner forum asking for help... you'll get a lot of useful replies.

 

For example a few recent ones I've seen include offers of coaching, book lists, training advice, people review their games for free, etc:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/suggestions-on-a-beginner-practice-routine-to-improve-very-low-elo

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/i-feel-like-such-a-garbage-player

Ziryab

What do you mean by elitism?

Chess is competitive. Those who are better rise to the top.

Cameron_W20

Hello all, just to clarify, both Hikaru Nakamura and Agadmator, have both commented on chess elitism. I have also spoken to others, who have spoken about it. Many that I have spoken to however, are ECF members. I am just asking the question, that is the best way to understand whether it is real or not. 

llama36
Cameron_W20 wrote:

Hello all, just to clarify, both Hikaru Nakamura and Agadmator, have both commented on chess elitism. I have also spoken to others, who have spoken about it. Many that I have spoken to however, are ECF members. I am just asking the question, that is the best way to understand whether it is real or not. 

Ok, well, IMO Nakamura has said a lot of very stupid things during streams... sometimes factually incorrect things... and often even when he knows better. I think he says them on purpose because he is/was very interested in growing his subscriber count, and it was his estimation that this is what you say if you want a horde of mindless children to accept you.

Agadmator I don't know much about.

Cameron_W20
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

   I haven't read these but maybe it will help.....                                                               https://www.chess.com/forum/search?keyword=chess+elitism

Thank you!