Etiquette: I'm in perpetual check and way up on time. Do I accept a draw offer?

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I just played a game in which I was up the exchange and up on time. My opponent got me into a perpetual check in which I could decline threefold repetition. When they had about 15 seconds left and I had about 90 seconds, they offered a draw. I declined, played them out, and took the win on time.

Was this the appropriate thing to do? Would it have been proper etiquette to accept the draw?

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Sorry I wasn't clear - I could decline by moving into a different pattern of perpetual check.

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sicamour wrote:

Sorry I wasn't clear - I could decline by moving into a different pattern of perpetual check.

Then its not a 3 fold repetition.  You did nothing wrong.

Avatar of Monie49

The clock is part of the game.

Good win on time!!!

Good etiquette!

Avatar of p1day1

Your opponent should admit defeat and resign or you should avoid the draw and use all the time you want. 

Avatar of BlargDragon

What's the clock for, if not that?

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hari is sour

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happened to him once

Avatar of fraser22

you were up material? why draw? if your opponent had time u would win right? as black ill draw a close game without thinking, but I always try and win with white. always go for win with white!!! black, ill draw after first move lol

Avatar of MitSud
Lol u hung ur queen on move 7 on ur second to last game
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hari2017 wrote:
HorribleTomato wrote:

hari is sour

why was he asking then? must be the nicest and most considerate dude. maybe he wants a cookie or something

Talking to you, harry. ACCEPT A DRAW? YOU MUST BE LA VIVA MA JOKING! There always be a chance he will Time Out!

 

 

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sicamour wrote:

I just played a game in which I was up the exchange and up on time. My opponent got me into a perpetual check in which I could decline threefold repetition. When they had about 15 seconds left and I had about 90 seconds, they offered a draw. I declined, played them out, and took the win on time.

Was this the appropriate thing to do? Would it have been proper etiquette to accept the draw?

 

this works on internet chess but could get you hurt and excluded from further play in non-anonymous settings.

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Quiksilverau escribió:
sicamour wrote:

I just played a game in which I was up the exchange and up on time. My opponent got me into a perpetual check in which I could decline threefold repetition. When they had about 15 seconds left and I had about 90 seconds, they offered a draw. I declined, played them out, and took the win on time.

Was this the appropriate thing to do? Would it have been proper etiquette to accept the draw?

 

this works on internet chess but could get you hurt and excluded from further play in non-anonymous settings.

False.

Avatar of Monie49
The clock is part of the game!
Avatar of JacJac06

yes

 

Avatar of simaginfan

The real question is 'were you happy winning the game when on merit the position was a draw?'

Avatar of KeSetoKaiba

Especially "being up" in material you did well to play it out. The clock "is part of the game", but it still feels poor to win by the clock in some positions - however, here I think you are fine. The clock certainly is a factor, and people who are terrible with this should play with increments (or at least longer time controls). However, this does not "excuse" poor etiquette. I lost a game a long time ago in blitz where my opponent played on in an extremely drawn position (I lost to clock). It is hard to describe, but we have too many complainers for losing on time - and it takes away meaning when someone was legitimately wronged on time. It is not losing on time that is the issue: it is the manner in which it is done. If you are "lost" - then etiquette should dictate that you resign (even in some forms of blitz I believe/ of course bullet is another story where playing on is the norm if you play with a minute at the start of the game, or something like that where the clock is a factor larger than even material).

To summarize, I think that the fact that this forum was even created displays the fact that the position was assessed (where you clearly were not "lost") - to play on is fine. Obviously, everyone has different definitions of "lost" and varied levels of "determination"; it seems inevitable that at least a few players will get upset over someone else not resigning. If you believe that you are in better position (as you were), then it is arguably unethical to accept the draw - as you are robbing yourself of the opportunity to convert the winning position into a win.

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This was a bullet game in which i was up a good bit of time when the position locked up and premoved my king around until timeout. This is the type of position in question. If you get a time advantage, i think you can use it to win.

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Winning and trying to win is good etiquette.

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If it was perpetual check then the extra material etc is meaningless!