Extreme Opponents

How about I try it for a month and if I maintain or surprise myself and do ok I stick with  it but if I do horribly I'll stick with the 1600's Would this be ok or is that bitting off more than I can chew aswell.

Sure.....though it seems like you've made up your mind prior to posting this thread topic :)  I do notice that the majority of higher rated (relative to you)  players on this thread are telling you that it is inefficient.  

Ok fine I don't want to be stubburn . what about your idea about the whole 60% moving up thing is that legite.

I'm currently practicing the 60% wins rule to the letter both on chess.com and other servers where I can "filter" the quality of opponents I tend to face.

 I believe I'm "slowly/gradually" getting better ... which suits my goals just fine. So obviously, I'm a huge fan of that idea.

Ultimately, you have to find whatever works for you best.  Hope these posts give you an idea of what others have in mind.

Another point of view that was brought to my attention is the fact that in the days of morphy and philidor ratings did not exist so when you played someone you didn't go by a 3 or 4digit number like we do today but off actual skill of the confidence you have for yourself. Would this apply to anything or am I still just being stubborn.

I have a 100% full proof method.

1 Find a couple of GM ( Greats from the past)

2 Look at games they won by Check Mate not time.

3 Take notes on parts of their game.

4 Practice on each part of your game,

  now the results will not show until about 3-4 months depending how much time yyou put into it. When it shows it really is going to show. I found this in article from a GM at this site. I still use and have beaten several players way above my rank.

true but I like to think of paying masters to coach as a investment plan cause once the make you as strong as they are to reach there rating in OTB you can then start coaching your own students.

I have heard all that before when i first started playing.

If your winning 2 of 10games in chess now,

Playing only more games just means your still going to be winninng 2 of 10 games.

 Only thing that is going to make a difference is studyinng the great Gm's of the past and their games with notes to explain the moves.

Just find one with a playing style you like.

That way instead of paying somebody money in a year you can take somebodyieds money in a game.

Just use Google.com I found everyting about chess i neede in great detail. The games were in great detail. Info on the GM.

Note: Google Tactics in Chess over 80% of Chess is tactics. And it is free. Every player that won a game has done it using a Tactic. Some are more popular than others. Learn how to defend against some openings.

All the info i gave you is free which most people will ask for money. Getting better takes time there is no quick fix. And this is the wrong site to practice on. The can see your games and know your playing and know what to expect. Try Yahoo just one level above the players here and different stles of players there.

thanks will do. Thanks everyone for all your feedback.

Your welcome. Just returning the favor that was done for me by several players.

k it depends on your emotions. For example if a player is in the middle of a losing streak he could get so frustrated that the losses just keep  on coming till he get's over and most of the time at amature level when you get a win or draw cause of your opponent's mess up that one draw or win can pull you out of the gutter but when It come's to master's this process of lifting up take's tremendously long but If you have your emotion's completely undercontrol you'll be able to keep growing and won't lagg at all in stretgh and eventually you'll be playing master's as if  you were one of them (in 2-3years at the least).

What does it take to build strong emotion?

Mental discipline or emotion is not teachable.  This is the same willpower that makes people deliver on big personal goals like dropping 50+ lbs at the gym, quit smoking etc.  You either have it or you don't.  

If you find yourself lacking in this department,  you can find a hands-on coach who makes prodding/yelling at you part of his teaching repertoire or easier yet, hang around really driven + motivated players and hope to sponge from them :)

I'm usually pretty drivin it's loses like when I blunder at the last minute to a last hope mate swindle which doen't happen often but when  it does I almost can't stand the look of a chess board (ALMOST)

Emotion is teachable. I am proof of it.

When i first started i was the worse player on the team period.

Once i info on the basics things started turning  around.

Then i practiced the basics more to stop giving the game away.

Then i do what all new players do. That worked on me so it might work on them. Well that worked for a while. To remove blunders look at GM games that are similiar situation. We blunder at some time it could be sleep, tired, hungry, distrastion but it is usually lack of knowledge or not completely understanding what you know.

Getting better at chess takes time. Each part of your game has to worked on. I suggest you make a list of things you want to improve on in your game and take them in parts. The key is to take them in small parts. Keep track of this. In a couple of weeks time you will be surprised what you have done. You will really be amazed in a couple of months. That is one of the greatest keys to improve. It is not going to easy but it will be worth it.

Heisman recommends playing opponents that are in the range of -50 points to +200 points better than you. Anything higher than 200 points is masochism.

If everyone followed that recommendation, nobody would find opponents over +50 better than them to play against.

I believe the Heisman recommendation was to "try" to play up when you could ... it wasn' t a "only play stronger players at all times" mandate.

For a "rule vs. guidelines/good advice" discussion, this guy could help:

Really simple

If you want to get better stay around players that want to get better.

If you want to be a better player stay around players that are better players.

Read what they read, do what they do and so on ......

 but if everyones doing this then won't going the extra mile prove benefitting cause to evryone who's my rating if they did the same I did they ould be playing like the people I'm suppose to play thats 100-200 elo higher than me.