I don't think you should bother about such comments. It has become more of a trend on these forums to jump on OP when other members don't agree even if it's completely reasonable to point out something. Not worth it I'd say. Now you know that people do sandbag, so just play carefully.
Faking a LOW rating to win !!
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VibrantMoves wrote:
I don't think you should bother about such comments. It has become more of a trend on these forums to jump on OP when other members don't agree even if it's completely reasonable to point out something. Not worth it I'd say. Now you know that people do sandbag, so just play carefully.
good point ! totally agree, thanks.
vyik wrote:
The only dumb people here are the ones called others dumb because of misunderstandings or a perceived lack of facts; an incident that has now been rectified. No need for you to continue dialoging in such a manner hayabusahayate16.
agreed, it's nice to see some reasonable comments instead of the type of trash seen previously : )
I checked the mentioned player, agree that he has strange tendency (he won most of the games against higher rated players and lost most of the games against lower rated opponents) may be he robin hood of chess ratings lol :D
slimcheffy wrote:
leiph18 wrote:
Yes, it happens, everyone knows it happens. You were slammed because your OP wasn't a case of it.
I guess you missed it but my original post was exactly about this. Here is my opening line : Hello, I have just recently experienced a few of players who ( I won't mention names ) enter tournaments with much lower ratings than their playing ability.
Showing off that you edited the OP? Wow, nice lol.
You're making the most of it. Much better than average, you're already up to 12 pages.
leiph18 wrote:
slimcheffy wrote:
leiph18 wrote:
Yes, it happens, everyone knows it happens. You were slammed because your OP wasn't a case of it.
I guess you missed it but my original post was exactly about this. Here is my opening line : Hello, I have just recently experienced a few of players who ( I won't mention names ) enter tournaments with much lower ratings than their playing ability.
Showing off that you edited the OP? Wow, nice lol.
You're making the most of it. Much better than average, you're already up to 12 pages.
hahaha you make no sense !! If you have a point to make about FAKING a LOW rating to win , then please make it , I'm all ears.
leiph18 wrote:
slimcheffy wrote:
leiph18 wrote:
Yes, it happens, everyone knows it happens. You were slammed because your OP wasn't a case of it.
I guess you missed it but my original post was exactly about this. Here is my opening line : Hello, I have just recently experienced a few of players who ( I won't mention names ) enter tournaments with much lower ratings than their playing ability.
Showing off that you edited the OP? Wow, nice lol.
You're making the most of it. Much better than average, you're already up to 12 pages.
No, he didn't. Get over it.
kaynight wrote:
You're a cheat slim... There you are.
Slimcheffy, especially comments like these. Don't bother at all. Such members spam every thread with nonsense. Enjoy your games!
Thanks VibrantMoves, I think I will play less Blitz and more online Chess from now on. There seems to be a better calibre of players there, at least in my experience, I have met alot of players with integrity.
Kaynight no worries I knew right away you were joking ! I don't put you in the box with leiph18 or that hayabusahayate16 crackpot, his only motive is to try and create havoc in a mostly good debate.
Step 1: Stop playing chess
Step 2: Start studying chess
Step 3: Play OTB chess
Step 4: Stop complaining
Step 5: Find a coach to argue with about this process
Step 6: Profit!
Chesscoaching wrote:
Step 1: Stop playing chess
Step 2: Start studying chess
Step 3: Play OTB chess
Step 4: Stop complaining
Step 5: Find a coach to argue with about this process
Step 6: Profit!
It remind me something like :D
Step 1: Stop complaining in forums
Step 2: Find a coach
Step 3: Complain to coach :D
Owltuna, you seem like a reasonable person, check out my post #205 on page 11 here & tell me what you think.
This is not an accusation of cheating , rather a very good example of a person purposely manipulating their rating up and down. Check it out.
But seriously, just stop this thread tho. No one is gonna fake a low rating and beat others unless the "others" are titled ppl, which usually results in a ban for no reason (unless the guy was using an engine
MNMGrassGreen wrote:
But seriously, just stop this thread tho. No one is gonna fake a low rating and beat others unless the "others" are titled ppl, which usually results in a ban for no reason (unless the guy was using an engine
The proof is here if you care to read it : post #205 on page 11.
People do fake low ratings, get over it , it happens, you are in denial my friend. Why even comment if you have no idea ?
"Has anyone else experienced this ? What are your thoughts ? I just withdrew from the tournament, it seemed to be pointless."
This is not professional chess on here. We don't know what our opponent is doing or their life outside of chess. Maybe it is a parent helping a child learn chess. It could be a hospital worker working with brain damaged patients and using chess as therapy. Maybe it is someone trying to impress a girlfriend/boyfriend. Yesterday I was teaching a student chess, and I set the level high. When the other students came in I lowered the level to make sure it would end in time for class to start. Having your students see a win isn't so bad either!!! 
tigerprowl9 wrote:
"Has anyone else experienced this ? What are your thoughts ? I just withdrew from the tournament, it seemed to be pointless."
This is not professional chess on here. We don't know what our opponent is doing or their life outside of chess. Maybe it is a parent helping a child learn chess. It could be a hospital worker working with brain damaged patients and using chess as therapy. Maybe it is someone trying to impress a girlfriend/boyfriend. Yesterday I was teaching a student chess, and I set the level high. When the other students came in I lowered the level to make sure it would end in time for class to start. Having your students see a win isn't so bad either!!!
The prowling tiger focuses on an important point. The only authentic, certified chess ratings are earned in games with observers/witnesses.
Chess.com is a great website for fun, learning and ... as this and other forum threads demonstrate ... for technology-enabled social interaction.
I lean toward the Golden Rule and assume that most people using chess.com are here for positive reasons. Of course I would be naive to rule out the possibility that some users live dual lives of Dr Jeckyll and Mr Hyde and chess.com is where their Hydes hide.
Someone who "fakes a low rating to win" would not be acting as the good Doctor Jeckyll would behave, so anyone who does so must be reverting to their evil Edward Hyde nature.
A point: My chess.com rating is lower than slimcheffy's in everything except perhaps the chess.com tactics category (but my tactics rating varies quite a bit depending on how much haste is in the mix to beat the time countdown).
A second point: Chess is a game of pure logic and it is not logical to get emotional about it.
A third point: The realm where we employ and resort to logic is the same realm which is inhabited and haunted by our memories and all related and resulting emotions.
Last of these points: Even Spock (of Star Trek fame) could not totally control his emotions.
Therefore it is completely understandable that even if somebody has what most chess players would consider a low rating, that he or she would be emotionally bothered if the person with whom he (or she) was playing chess was cheating regardless of the fact that there is no money, prize or official rating at stake on chess.com. It is more than understandable ... it is logical.
10 percent cheats puts more than a million on the site. Simple math.
Most likely that doesn't apply to the OP's crazy game.
And for a site with maybe 100,000 active members that's some kind of supersaturation.
While I agree that there has been an ample amount of discussion of the topic, I lean toward the opinion that whether or not it has reached a state of "case closed" is soley determined in the mind of each reader and participant.
As for my opinion - the case is "open and shut," simple and straightforward, that the possibility in general exists that some chess.com participants may resort to cheating and if they do so, because chess.com ratings are not official, they are only doing any real damage to themselves by reinforcing a negative inclination within themselves instead of controlling and restraining it ... as Spock (of Star Trek fame) had learned to do with the dark side of his inner nature.
But the discussion seems to have petered out, dwindled away ... so I once again want to say that I've found the participation of everyone, every single one of you, lively, good for laughs and therefore also healthy ... because some studies have shown that laughter is good for the heart.
haha hayabusahayate16, you just couldn't keep your mouth shut could you ? As soon as I said where are all the loud mouth know-it-alls... you piped up ! Thank you for showing your true colors once again. It just kills you that I'm right here doesn't it ? That people do Fake a LOW rating to win. Why do they sandbag you ask ? I have no idea, why do you ask me that anyways, you seem to know it all Mr.Rudefacesmartypants.