FIDE World Championship - Magnus Carlsen vs Ian Nepomniactchi

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I'm greatly entertained by the championship. I realize there are no tactical displays because there are no mistakes to execute them. That's how much has gone into chess in the computer era, that they almost play like machines.

brianchesscake

Karjakin beat Carlsen in a game which forced Carlsen to be more aggressive so their match could go to tiebreaks. I predict in this match that Nepo will be pushing a little harder for a win towards the later rounds so that Carlsen won't have time to bounce back! That would be amazing high class drama.

michael432000
brianchesscake wrote:

Karjakin beat Carlsen in a game which forced Carlsen to be more aggressive so their match could go to tiebreaks. I predict in this match that Nepo will be pushing a little harder for a win towards the later rounds so that Carlsen won't have time to bounce back! That would be amazing high class drama.

My feeling was that Carlsen got frustrated at Karjakin’s ultra safe play and went for an inferior position in that game in order to create an imbalance when he could easily have drawn. Maybe he’s thinking: why should I be the first one to take a risk. Let’s see what happens.

michael432000
Jenium wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:

@jenium. In the abstract, it proves nothing more than winning Tata Steel or Wijk aan Zee or any other tournament or match.

I disagree. Being prepared, being able to focus, to control your nerves and to play your A-game when it matters the most, is part of the deal.

Exactly. All the added pressure of it being the World Championship and the attention the match receives.

Abinav1907

First five games are drawn. They are not briniging good content. I want someone to win atleat one of the remaining games.

assassin3752
Abinav1907 wrote:

First five games are drawn. They are not briniging good content. I want someone to win atleat one of the remaining games.

BRUH 

did you even watch ONE of the wwc games? 

I think for the "not bringing good content" part, that might just be a "you" problem, so learn to deal with it

Elroch

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

Rodrigodang7

So

Srinibas_Masanta

I think whoever manages to draw first blood will win the match. Nepo has often had a tendency of going a bit on tilt after an important loss, and I expect that even for Carlsen, who has been much more known for mental fortitude and the ability to bounce back immediately after a loss, falling behind in this match would be disastrous. As to who is likelier to draw first blood? That may depend a lot on their prep and general match strategy. There the quality and experience of the Carlsen Camp probably has the edge. So I’ll say 55:45 in favour of Carlsen.

llama47
Elroch wrote:

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

The hard part is how.

blueemu
llama47 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

The hard part is how.

Lock them both in the playing room and don't let them out until there's a winner.

fabelhaft

It’s high quality chess from players that are very well prepared. A bit dry at times, but difficult to avoid at this level nowadays. 

hoodoothere
llama47 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

The hard part is how.

It wouldn't be that hard, but the game would be different after rule changes. Could eliminate a stalemate and the person with more points in a stalemate position wins. Consider endings like King and Bishop vs King, or King and Knight vs King, who really played better? The side with the extra piece obviously; maybe just give them the win?

Anonymous_Dragon
hoodoothere wrote:
llama47 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

The hard part is how.

It wouldn't be that hard, but the game would be different after rule changes. Could eliminate a stalemate and the person with more points in a stalemate position wins. Consider endings like King and Bishop vs King, or King and Knight vs King, who really played better? The side with the extra piece obviously; maybe just give them the win?

Outright bs. Completely messes up with the dynamics of the game

llama47
hoodoothere wrote:
llama47 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

The hard part is how.

It wouldn't be that hard, but the game would be different after rule changes. Could eliminate a stalemate and the person with more points in a stalemate position wins. Consider endings like King and Bishop vs King, or King and Knight vs King, who really played better? The side with the extra piece obviously; maybe just give them the win?

The problem with that is it changes a lot more than just draws. Stalemate as a draw influences the evaluation of most endgames, so getting rid of it directly impacts middlegame strategy overall. It would make the game much more materialistic and less strategic. This change would be too big.

Ubik42
Hoodoothere:”Could eliminate a stalemate and the person with more points in a stalemate position wins.”

Lol. I think my knight is worth 5 points, look at what a great outpost it’s on, compared to your lame Rook in the corner, worth maybe 1 pawn. I win.
hoodoothere
Anonymous_Dragon wrote:
hoodoothere wrote:
llama47 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

The hard part is how.

It wouldn't be that hard, but the game would be different after rule changes. Could eliminate a stalemate and the person with more points in a stalemate position wins. Consider endings like King and Bishop vs King, or King and Knight vs King, who really played better? The side with the extra piece obviously; maybe just give them the win?

Outright bs. Completely messes up with the dynamics of the game

It was just a joke and a suggestion, I know it would change the dynamics, but the topic was how to get rid of the numerous draws. It works in that context.

Elroch
blueemu wrote:
llama47 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

It is the rules of chess that are at fault. It's time to remove the drawing possibilities.

The hard part is how.

Lock them both in the playing room and don't let them out until there's a winner.

Well, in principle you can make every type of draw a win for one side or the other. i.e. stalemate = win for a selected side. Three-fold repetition of position is a loss (or a win). And so on. But to be frank this is not very appealing, as these new objectives would dominate the game.

Better to play go instead.

x-3232926362

That would not solve the problem of too many draws in matches, but in tournaments they could give 1.5 points for a win instead of 1 (like they do in football, for example).

llama47
AntiMustard wrote:

That would not solve the problem of too many draws in matches, but in tournaments they could give 1.5 points for a win instead of 1 (like they do in football, for example).

In a match it's always the case that the player who has won more games wins the match, so that doesn't change anything in a match format.