Fischer vs. Kasparov

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AM221
AHMED10100 wrote: Reb wrote: First , let me admit my extreme bias for Fischer, as I was drawn into chess due to the Fischer/Spassky match of 1972. Having said that I would like to point out the fact that both Spassky and Petrosian (the late Tigran) both have equal records against Kasparov and Petrosian had black in all his games against Kasparov. We all know what Fischer did to these two so how can anyone seriously ask this question? :-) 

 


I personally agreee that Fischer was better, but that proof means nothing. Everyone's style differs, and Fischer's was effective against Petrosian and Spassky,but is that a proof it would work against  Kasparov?


A-Jenery
batgirl wrote:

"The consensus is that Capablanca used a computer"

 

I've always supected as much. Even his name sounds like a computer progam.

 


 LOL!  Much younger when I was still new to chess, I used to sometimes misquote Capablanca with the place-name Casablanca...

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In an ideal world, Fischer and Kasparov would have been in the same era and would have played each other, then we would know. 


SIXGUNS

 

One must study chess history and know the games of both chess geniuses Fischer and Kasparov to make any comparison between the two.

Even then it is very close. I have done that study over the years and I give it to Fischer. I have no doubt that had Fischer stayed in chess his record would have grown even more impressive ,more dominate.

Top three in chess goes, Fischer, Kasparov ,Capablanca .-SIX

 


itaibn
The best chess player in the world is Deep Blue, unless I'm mistaken.
Meowdar
AM221  How does the proof that Reb offered mean nothing?  Petrosian and Spassky are both quite older than Kasparov and age is a factor in chess.  Bobby Fischer probably couldn't play, today, at the level he did in '72.  Another case-in-point is if age wasn't a factor then Kasparov would still be champion (and why hasn't anyone mentioned Kramnik or Anand??  These two names have been huge in chess for quite a while...  Do we wait until people "fade" out before we mention their genius in our game?).  I believe that if we could have a game that was Kasp. vs. Fishcer while they were both (somehow) in their prime, Fischer would win.  However, it would still be very very very interesting if somehow we/someone could get the two to have a fair correspondence (or chess.com!) match! 
najdorf-inactive
Kasparov without thinking twice. Has Fischer played a machine with 200 million moves per second? Go home Fischer!
yerRook
batgirl wrote:

"The consensus is that Capablanca used a computer"

 

I've always supected as much. Even his name sounds like a computer progam.

 


 yea, Jose for Windows


StacyBearden

I think, on a slightly adjacent train of thought, that Deep Blue (or whatever that IBM chess computer was called) and a team of engineers, a few GM's who have a bone to pick, and a little cheating could probably beat Kasparov. Oh wait, that did happen. Never mind. Back to the normal thread.

 

That is all. 


Knightwheelrqr
pawnshover wrote:

Kasparov is a better chessplayer because he had superior knowledge of the lines thanks to computers and an extra 20 years of chess lore. Kaspy could study Bobby but Bobby couldn't study Kaspy. There are a few researchy web sites that did studies about the ratings and rankings of dead masters based on their games.

The consensus is that Capablanca used a computer. ^_^


If capablanca died in 1942 how did he use a computer?

Good punchline although incorrect

Also I must agree that Capablanca's moves were computer like because they were so amazing although no microsoft windows back then just the good old mind, chess board and some books.

I would say that Capablanca was the best player ever

although that is just my opinion 

check out capablanca v yates 1924

the knightwheel is amazing

computer like precision

batgirl

"If capablanca died in 1942 how did he use a computer?"

 

ummm.. that is a running joke.

In comparisons of computer analyses, it's been found that of all the world champions in WC matches, Capablanca's moves most agreed with those of the computer.  Capablanca was closely followed by, yes, you guessed it!

Kramnik...

 

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3455 

 

TonightOnly
I agree with pawnshover that Kasparov was the better player, but only because of the advances in chess theory. I think that Fischer would win when it comes to natural talent. But then, Capablanca or Morphy would take that title. If all that is being asked is who would win a match, it has to be Kasparov.
El_Piton

Speaking of Kasparov, does the picture in the ChessMentor banner at the top of the page remind anyone of someone else with a "killer stare"?

StacyBearden
Putin?
Sothilde
Jack Nicholson?
bigmac30
i would say kasparov is better because of his supiror opening theory
fleiman
Kasparov, undoubtedly.
ancientpistol
someone refered to fischers play in the candidates tournament earlier in this thread. winning 20 consecutive matches against fellow grandmasters in the same tournament is stunning, and i believe a feat which will never be equaled!! most likely the greatest particular moment in modern chess!!..... fischer go home??? i think not!!!
bendcat

Fischer is best against Kasparov, comparing the games of both players, Fischer playing has the high percentage in having a best moves in chess.

Here is the sample of graph:

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Let's face the fact that Capablanca is the best chess player of all time.

 

Note: 

If the graph doesn't display please browse or click this link:

http://www.chessbase.com/news/2006/matej07a.gif 


StacyBearden
Kasparov. Just because I can.
A-Jenery
I don't know why my last post came up twice so i'm deleting one of them...
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