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Hahahahaa.How can you know better than me.I am Croatian. In 1999 Yugoslavia was Serbia only Serbia in that time only name exist, but Croatia,Slovenia,Bosnia and Herzegovina,Macedonia had own countrys and they weren't any more in Yugoslavia.Stop with your posting.You are liar and you think you know much but you don't know nothing.
Jan 29, 2008
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#24
Gligoric, Ivkov, Ljubojevic, Kurajica: famous Grandmasters from Yugoslavia. Rich in history and ripe with change. The country wher Fischer won and American chess lost.
Bobby Fischer: Executive Order
"In 1992, Bobby Fischer turned up in Yugoslavia for a rematch with Spassky; the competitors proved to be well past their primes. Fischer's presence in Yugoslavia at a time of civil war there violated an executive order; he spat publicly on the letter warning him not to play, and a warrant was issued for his arrest."
The Disintegration of Yugoslavia (1986-1992)
The dissolution of federal Yugoslavia was hastened by the rise to power of Slobodan Miloshevich as president of the Serbian Republic and his embrace of an extreme Serb nationalist agenda. That agenda calls for a solution of the "national question" by the creation of a Greater Serbia, uniting all Serbs in a single state; in 1986 it was endorsed by the Serbian Academy of Arts and Sciences. The following year, Miloshevich and his hard-line faction gained power within the Serbian League of Communists, in large part by playing the nationalist card---appealing to the Serbian sense of grievance at being deprived of a leadership role in Tito's Yugoslavia and at being outstripped by some other republics economically. He demanded that the more prosperous republics (Slovenia and Croatia) take on a greater share of the costs of the federal budget and called upon them to defer to Serbian leadership. By the end of 1987 he was speaking of scrapping the federal constitution and the collective presidency altogether, calling for a new, recentralized Yugoslavia, united under a single strong hand.
In 1989, seizing upon the patriotic fervor surrounding a historic anniversary, Miloshevich initiated a crackdown on Serbia's ethnic Albanians, who form the majority (90%) of the population in the country's southern autonomous province of Kosovo. Kosovo was the seat of a Serbian kingdom in the Middle Ages and the site of the famous battle, fought in 1389, that ended medieval Serbia's independence and began its centuries of subjection to the Islamic Ottoman Empire. In the romantic imagery of Serbian nationalism, Kosovo represents both Serbia's past greatness and its humiliation at the hands of Muslims. The continued presence of a large and politically assertive Muslim Albanian population in Kosovo is perceived as an intolerable affront to this nationalist vision of Serbia. In 1990 Miloshevich issued decrees abolishing the autonomous status of all of the Serbian Republic's minority regions and severely curbing the educational and political rights of ethnic minorities. The autonomous regions' seats in the Yugoslav collective presidency were retained, however, and were packed with Miloshevich's own appointees. Non-Serbs throughout Yugoslavia watched these developments with growing unease, unwilling to become either tools or targets of his policies.
By the summer of 1991 Slovenia, the most prosperous and Westernized republic, decided it had had enough of Miloshevich's attempts to seize control of the federal presidency. The Slovenes decided to go their own way (in theory, the right of each republic to secede was guaranteed under Tito's federal constitution). In Belgrade the Serbs responded with outrage and the Yugoslav federal army (with a 70% Serb officer corps) was called upon to intervene to stop Slovenia from seceding.
The army was unprepared for such a mission and the Slovenes, using public relations as much as derring-do, managed to inflict a series of humiliations on their vastly more powerful adversary (including sending captured JNA conscripts home on trains headed for Belgrade, clad only in their underwear). Following a brief struggle, Slovenia achieved its independence and JNA troops were evacuated to bases in neighboring Croatia. Since there is no Serb minority within Slovenia, this humiliating turn of events did not as yet seriously impinge on the Serbian nationalist dream of a Greater Serbia. The same was not true in the case of the other republics.
Croatia, which is home to a sizeable Serb minority population, declared its independence on the same day as Slovenia. Following a tense period of skirmishes and negotiations between the Croatian government, representatives of Serb nationalist parties within Croatia and the Serbian-dominated federal authorities, talks broke down just as the conflict in Slovenia next door was coming to an end. The Yugoslav army launched a full-scale offensive against Croatia from its bases in Serbia and Bosnia-Herzegovina, in coordination with militias that had been formed by Serb nationalists in Croatia (supplied and armed by the JNA). Savage fighting ensued, marked by the Serbian forces' deliberate targeting of civilians and of cultural landmarks (including the brutal siege of the medieval port city of of Dubrovnik and the total destruction of the town of Vukovar, a jewel of Baroque architectur.
Jan 29, 2008
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#25
oginschile said, "Some of the posts here make me think mental disorders are more wide spread than we previously thought." True, many people who post on chess threads are seeking therapy. They often admit it and claim they take medication. Some who are near to posing as doctors cannot spell, but they diagnose Fischer in absentia. We even find Hitler posting here as a reference for Fischer! Yet he thinks Fischer was "about 15" in 1962. Everyone else knows Fischer was born on March 9, 1943, even our very own Fischer on this site. How many of you knew Fischer or even had a small conversation with him? From the first time I met Bobby in Brooklyn and he sat next to me in a car on the way back to Manhattan, we never spoke about politics or religion; it was always about chess. He functioned then. Later, he won the world title, and in my unmedicated opinion, shot his load or lost his goal by achieving it. Another sign of mental illness, hatred, or sadism is to gratuitously post agreement with the rantings of a hateful person. It is unfortunate that international chess politics has surpassed the hatred of individuals by institutionalizing bigotry. Hatred is profitable and therein lies its appeal. It sells like underarm deodorant. Buy into it and conceal what stinks about yourself. A brilliant, but uneducated mind like Fischer's could conceal his inability to be rated higher than others in anything but chess by "knowing" everything, even that his teeth were bugged. Inferiority is complex. From the first time a person sees others rewarded for bigotry by seeming intelligent or funny, that person has an incentive to imitate the bigot. If there were no profits from such behavior it would diminish. If such behavior were to be met with scorn and derision, the bigot would make a cost benefit analysis that could lead to more appropriate behavior.
Jan 29, 2008
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#26
I like you greenlaser. I'm no doctor but I base my opinions about what a person says and does in public. Bobby was definitely public and definitely off. I'm impressed that you knew him and in a way jealous that you knew him when he was "Bobby" the chessplayer, not the paranoid person he ended up being. If only we could all be that lucky.
Jan 29, 2008
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#27
Dani,
no offense by my posting but that is history. As reported and written BY ANDRAS RIEDLMAYER at Harvard University. If you have a problem with it, speak to him. Call Harvard and make an official complaint. I'm sure they will rewrite history for you.
Your post is true but I don't want watch this posts on chess site,place where I am spending much free time.I don't want that someone who write here about wars on balkan,and in that time who was sitting and enjoying at home was drinking beers and watching TV when I was in cover and when civils are dying in my country and because... 
Greenlaser: Good post, excellent read.
Jan 29, 2008
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#30
I'm going to try and be sensitive here. I am sorry that you went through a living hell. However, you can't participate in an argument and expect the other people to limit their responses to your feelings especially when we are dealing with documented facts.
Jan 29, 2008
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#31
Discussions of history seem to come up on chess sites. Nobody is entitled to a history they like. This includes not only nationalities but endeavors, such as chess. However, it would be good to get to chess and away from politics on a chess site. Since chess is played in so many nations and politics sets the rules for living, including playing chess, here we are. I suppose if chess rating points were used as currency, chess federations would have armies.
Jan 30, 2008
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#32
Boy do I wish my chess history was different. I like that: "Nobody is entitled to a history they like". If chess rating points were like currency. I'd be poor.
Jan 30, 2008
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#33
Clownfish wrote: WTF?! I wear socks and sandals! Not on the beach, but sometimes inside for dryer and "airier" feet or on a dusty street to avoid to get debris and crap between my toes! ;) If that is nutty, the supersficiousness of the world is beyond what I imagined! Hey, as long as he didn't wear the socks OUTSIDE of the sandals, he's ok!
Uh Oh! Hotdog! The things we do with socks will make us all crazy eventually.
Sandals/socks combo? I bet he wore y-fronts too, the ones with the white trim. The ultimate chess geek and I can only dream of aspiring to that. You show me a player on this site with a 2000+ rating that doesn't dress i this attire and I'll show you a player with a chess programme!
Jan 31, 2008
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#35
So true. I am a fashion bug for all things chess. I'll wear anything or nothing at all.
i have given bobby a lot of slack for his 9/11 and antisemitic comments. But, this socks & sandals scandal is just too much for my soul to bear. i wash my hands of you Fischer.
Apr 8, 2009
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#37
elementarypenguin wrote:
I'm new to contributing to these forums, so please let me know if I cross the line anywhere.
I have often worn socks with sandals... not as comfortable as it looks but I've got a thing about people looking at my hairy toes...
Some of my best friends (and family) are americans, so please don't anyone take this wrong...
I always thought some of his rantings were jusified. I think he went through an ordeal similar to what most canadian olymic competitors used to go through... huge expectations with next to zero support... I'd imagine it's easy to get disillusioned with the folks that you're representing in situations like that... easy for that disillusionment to turn into resentment... add to that an extremely analytical mind singlehandedly representing a superpower and defeating another superpower at the height of the cold war with all the CIA KGB shenanigans being rumored about ... and I can easily see the resentment leading into paranoia. All that to say that just because you're generally paranoid and think someone's out to get you doesn't mean you aren't clinically paranoid and right.
but then again, I don't purport to know that much about him and his life... this is just from the few tidbits that I read.
Then why don't you shave your toes?
"The bombings of Yugoslavia were worse than two atomic bombs on Japan..."
In that time Yugoslavia didn't exist any more. You must edit your post and write Serbia.Here I disagree with Bobby because Serbia deserved and much more afther wars and genocides in Croatia and in Bosnia.
It can't change nothing,Bobby Fischer will always be my idol and idol to so many players,beginners,experts... in the world.I will always appreciate him and everything what he did in chess and for chess.Because of him chess became much more popular,because of him prizes are much higher,because of him so many players are started play chess...He is the greatest! Chess is Bobby Fischer!