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@dylanpthomas, why do you play Blitz without increment if you don't like it?

Sred
dylanpthomas wrote:
#148

I couldn’t deliver checkmate but I actually crushed the person on the board and lost by two seconds so they deserve the win. Oh…

You did not crush them in time. The clock is there for a reason.

Ziryab
dylanpthomas wrote:
#146

I do punish them. They blunder all of their pieces away and I capture them. Even when the time is down to the wire I try to actually think but, it’s not always easy to find a checkmate within five seconds.

 

It is not too late to improve your skills in finding and delivering checkmate. Many patterns should be perceived instantly. Train with the resources listed here and you will succeed more often. http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2021/11/learning-checkmate-or-teaching-it.html

 

Anonymous_Dragon
dylanpthomas wrote:
#146

I do punish them. They blunder all of their pieces away and I capture them. Even when the time is down to the wire I try to actually think but, it’s not always easy to find a checkmate within five seconds.

It is easy Else you should have simplified stuff much earlier and promoted one of your pawns to a queen. 

Anonymous_Dragon
Ziryab wrote:
dylanpthomas wrote:
#146

I do punish them. They blunder all of their pieces away and I capture them. Even when the time is down to the wire I try to actually think but, it’s not always easy to find a checkmate within five seconds.

 

It is not too late to improve your skills in finding and delivering checkmate. Many patterns should be perceived instantly. Train with the resources listed here and you will succeed more often. http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2021/11/learning-checkmate-or-teaching-it.html

 

I like the way you are subtly roasting him

dylanpthomas
Here’s the last thing I’ll say, done responding after this. Everything that you all are saying is valid, and everything I’m saying is valid. No one is right or wrong, it’s a matter of opinion. I was frustrated one day so I got on here and expressed my opinion, that’s all it is. In my opinion, if the position is lost you should resign instead of flagging, especially if you don’t have a significant lead in time. I see that as being respectable. Agree to disagree. Nobody’s mind will be changed here
Kowarenai

agreed friend 💕

batgirl
dylanpthomas wrote:
 In my opinion, if the position is lost you should resign instead of flagging, especially if you don’t have a significant lead in time.

A lost position in no way equates to a lost game.  That's just rationalization.  One is theoretical, the other must be proven within the time-control to which you agreed to play under.  If you fail to prove it and lose on time, that's all on you.  It's definitely not up to your opponent. 

uri65
dylanpthomas wrote:
Here’s the last thing I’ll say, done responding after this. Everything that you all are saying is valid, and everything I’m saying is valid. No one is right or wrong, it’s a matter of opinion. I was frustrated one day so I got on here and expressed my opinion, that’s all it is. In my opinion, if the position is lost you should resign instead of flagging, especially if you don’t have a significant lead in time. I see that as being respectable. Agree to disagree. Nobody’s mind will be changed here

Almost everything you are saying is wrong. Please don't try to present this discussion as symmetrical. You insulted other players by calling them "indecent" and "poor sports". I asked you to apologize - you didn't. I reported you. Hope you get at least a warning from the staff (although I don't think you deserve to have your account closed).

uri65

dylanpthomas, I suggest you to watch this movie and to learn how such situations are resolved at the highest level (also please read the 1st comment with a detailed description)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPysTEW0YZU

Ziryab

Resigning a blitz game is lunacy unless checkmate is imminent and your opponent has adequate time.

batgirl

If resigning a blitz game is lunacy, what describes the act of complaining about your opponent not resigning? Incitement to Lunacy?

Ziryab
batgirl wrote:

If resigning a blitz game is lunacy, what describes the act of complaining about your opponent not resigning? Incitement to Lunacy?

 

Poor sportsmanship.

shadow1414

Yes, flaggers are not Chess players, but we are not playing Chess; we are playing Chess with Clocks.

jawineholt
dylanpthomas wrote:
#128

Yeah I get it, “you both signed up for the rules”. I was hoping people already understood my perspective on that as well. For the 10th time, even if it’s within the rules, the players have the option to resign, which I feel is the right thing to do if the position is lost, which it was. If the position is not lost, show me. Like I said, let’s play it out. It’s also not about that single game. I made that example because it’s clearly lost for the other person who refuses to resign but, that’s not the point. The point is that this happens constantly. It’s a mindset of a lot of chess players. “I will just move quickly so that my rating does not go down even though I played poorly”. It’s just my opinion, I don’t respect that at all. No one’s mind is being changed so again, let’s just end the conversation.

Dude you lost, badly. You were behind in material, you were behind in time, you played poorly. Hold your L quietly.

jawineholt
dylanpthomas wrote:
if the position is lost you should resign

Ok so why didn't you resign after that massive 20 second blunder?

Oh, and "agree to disagree" is said solely by people who are unable to defend their nonsense.

Ubik42
dylanpthomas
“If someone wins by .1 seconds in a lost position, you think they deserve the win? “

Of course.

Maybe instead of a 5 minute game you should have gone with 4 minutes and 59 seconds.
dylanpthomas

Here are the irrefutable facts of the game I posted. I found it and went through the report.

At no point was I down in material, not sure why multiple people keep saying I was, that is false. We were even in material until move 19 when I went up +1. After move 20 I’m up +2. After move 26 I’m up +4. After move 39 I’m up +5.

People keep talking about my massive blunder. The computer recognizes it as a mistake, not a blunder. In that position it was +3.78 better for White (my opponent). Two moves after that, my opponent made an actual huge blunder and the position became +5.05 for me.

The end result is me with three passed pawns, I’m about to capture my opponents last pawn so that there is zero chance of promotion, the enemy king is stuck on the back rank, and I’m up an entire bishop which means I would be up six points.

For the last 12 to 15 moves of the game my opponent is just moving as quickly as possible to run my clock out because they know it’s over. After move 42 it was +11.3 for me. In the final position it says mate in 7 for black.

None of this is debatable, my [mod edit: removed inappropriate language - JG] just sat here and went through the report and wrote all of this to make sure this is settled. Like I said, it comes down to opinion. If I was them I would be resigning because I feel that’s the respectful thing to do when the game is lost. Lots of people disagree with me and that’s fine, that’s your opinion.

Ubik42
3.78 is a massive blunder. That is more than a piece.

Anyway, all that matters is who won according to the agreed upon rules.

If you don’t like it, change the format you are playing under. I don’t play bullet because It doesn’t feel like chess to me.

Or play with an increment. Blitz with increment is literally a different game than without.
dylanpthomas
It went from +.62 to +3.78 so yeah it’s the value of a piece and was a big mistake. However, two moves later my opponent made a move that went from +4.2 for them to +5.05 for me. The value of a queen. Mine was a mistake, there’s was a massive blunder.