(for athletes) Have you encountered individuals adamant about chess as sport?

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Highly competitive game, granted - but lightyears from exertion-based. Is it seen as a shortcut to counter the (unfair and unkind) social pressures / bullying that deconditioned individuals face? (Any psychologists obviously more than welcome to join the discussion.)
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Personally, no. I've never seen anyone trying to enforce that particular arbitrary label - they just wanna play chess.

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I'm very confused by everything in the reply above.

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Animals make sport only and they cant think twice at an argument!! Now there are two ways or schools of how to play chess. That of learning by memory the move lines of others and thats a sport and that of thinking the move lines all by yourself after studying books and thats a science!!

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I use to say chess isn’t a sport but nowadays, anything can be called a sport. The Olympics has a sport where people just walk a long distance to the finish line. We also have a sport where people slap each other in the face until someone passes out.

Either way, I don’t see the above as a sport but the meaning of sport is subjective. Sorry for the rant but yes, chess is a sport.
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Doesn't sport imply physical activity or am I missing the point?

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God no, not again!

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So, instead of generating discussion, all this did was elicit the prototypic response.

Quach:
1. Physically-demanding jobs are obviously still common, even more so in the developing world.
2. Your level of physical fitness will help determine whether or not you collapse from an mi at your J-O-B at 50.
(3. Black people don’t need any more help with spelling than anyone else.)
4. But most perplexing is your apparent assertion that, while physical exertion is not a qualification for sport, relevance to future employment is ??? 🤷‍♂️

No, Whitenight; you’re right on the money.

Search for intelligent discussion, instead find another emotionally-charged logic void that led to my curiosity in the first place. Got it.

PS: So any college exam - provided it’s graded on a curve - is therefore a sport and should receive NCAA funding 🤨😆
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I just love chess

as well as some people calling it a sport, it's also said to be an art, and others say it's a science

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A dumb troll writes a dumb troll post (of the kind that pops up every month), and people just jump to answer it. Go on, feed the troll, good job.

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magipi wrote:

A dumb troll writes a dumb troll post (of the kind that pops up every month), and people just jump to answer it. Go on, feed the troll, good job.

Oh, the irony.

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Quach, you seem hyper-focused on appearance - bodybuilding and those traditionally-held as Hellenistic ideals.
The original topic stems from a drastically different perspective. Not sarcoplasmic; myofibrillar. Think the Eliud Kipchoge to Brian Shaw spectrum. (Or Kimura Masahiko somewhere in the middle.)

Or don’t.
I had high hopes for this conversation (that it might even include dissecting the physical aspects of our highly-cognized variation on Panksepp’s ‘seeking’.)
Instead, Magipi’s unkind comment about trolling, and an odd, apparent assertion that a disposable 80’s movie was some level of turning point in Western civilization.

I guess I didn’t get my question answered, but I did get the reason for it validated.
Take care, all (or seek therapy, or baszd meg, whichever applies in your particular case…)
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Really? Ha! My girlfriend is Vietnamese!
She only comes up to my solar plexus 😆, but her bun thit is my favorite thing ever (don’t know how she seasons the meat, but 🤤…) One of my favorite workout meals, quasi-ironically.

The citizens of China seem like cool people, but Pooh Bear Xi and the CCP are some of the worst people on the planet. (The poor Uyghurs, Tibet, Taiwan. And the Baltic Sea line severed by dragging anchor. Just horrible people all the way around.)

Actually, I said exams graded on a curve.
Anyway, you didn’t answer my question at all, but you keep validating the absolute *hell* out of posing it.
(I just wish I understood why it’s *SO* important to the ‘yes’ camp. Why you demand so hard to be perceived as athletes. Something can still totally rule without being a sport. I love chess too; it’s why I’m on this site 🤷‍♂️ But I don’t need it to be a sport to think it’s an amazing game.)

All I can come up with is that there’s gotta be another psychological need it fills 🤷‍♂️
(Like peers perceiving the subject as unathletic… Bullying… Something…)

Tam biet… I guess 😆
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(Yeah, I have a copy of The Tao of JKD as well. Are we done yet?)
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It's a mind or mental or cognitive game.

People who want chess to be considered to be a sport seem a bit silly, unless they want to use that to attract funding from sports bodies. You'd definitely think it's seen as compensation for something.

My wife's a professional psychologist and I suppose I used to be an athlete. I like the competitive, pressure side of chess as well as the intellectual side of it. Anyone who thinks it's a sport is kidding themselves.

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And with that, from an athlete and 1 deg of sep from a psychologist - close enough - we can all get the hell on with our lives 🙏
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long_quach wrote:
QuarteredFOV wrote:
Quach, you seem hyper-focused on appearance - bodybuilding and those traditionally-held as Hellenistic ideals.

I am Vietnamese. I'm culturally and genetically Chinese. Both my grandfathers were Chinese.

My name in the original Chinese.

郭龍

Quach Long

The Chinese value intellectual people.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/for-athletes-have-you-encountered-individuals-adamant-about-chess-as-sport?page=1#comment-96953671

I don't drink the Greek Kook-Aid, like Westerners do.

Very weird of you to be casually xenophobic.
And the Chinese don't care about sports? Someone should tell the hundreds of thousands of kids being put through what we'd call brutal torture anywhere else on the planet for Olympic sports medals.
In any case, I've yet to see one coherent or relevant thought from you, so I guess I'll move on.

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Optimissed wrote:

It's a mind or mental or cognitive game.

People who want chess to be considered to be a sport seem a bit silly, unless they want to use that to attract funding from sports bodies. You'd definitely think it's seen as compensation for something.

My wife's a professional psychologist and I suppose I used to be an athlete. I like the competitive, pressure side of chess as well as the intellectual side of it. Anyone who thinks it's a sport is kidding themselves.

I think this is a very good description of reality.

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QuarteredFOV wrote:
And with that, from an athlete and 1 deg of sep from a psychologist - close enough - we can all get the hell on with our lives 🙏

I usually get worse condemnation than that for my posts. happy.png

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Oh, this is still going on? I thought we’d finished.

Ok, Quach, a few quick questions.
(Short answers, please 🙏 No YouTube deep dives, k? Just your opinion.)
1: Do you exercise? Do you believe physical fitness is important in life?
2: Let’s pick something that flips the table, as well as removes its cultural setting from East Asia. Something that, unlike chess, is VERY physical. But, like chess, is not a sport. What’s your perspective on krav maga?
3: Just a curiosity: As someone who is ethnically Chinese and comes from a family of Chinese citizenry, how do you feel about the Chinese Communist Party?

Cảm ơn.
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