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Vintage Michael

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TacticalSymphony wrote:
MalSwanOfZaga10 wrote:

Ah yes his greek friends to the rescue, afraid to admit there nationality!

Don't you know the Greeks invented everything, including Chess? 

Chess is from India right?

(EDIT) Just checked, it's from India. 

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MalSwanOfZaga10 wrote:

oh and pfren what is your source?

This sort of story circulates now and then... not only with chess with all sorts of other stuff.

"Hey man, did you hear about this car company that made a car that can go 100 miles on just 1 gallon?  The gas company paid them a million dollars to keep it secret and so they dumped all those cars in the desert"

But it's also true if you understand the nature of programs and chess that it's just not possible even in the foreseeable future.  I'm not trying to be rude, that's just how it is.

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TacticalSymphony wrote:
helltank wrote:

The story is fake because any company smart enough to create a super computer that powerful would be smart enough to not shut it down and instead collect extortion money from the FIDE in exchange for not releasing it onto the market. 

Once again - if a supercomputer solves chess, why do you think that's going to automatically give you the same ability as said computer? 

It won't.  A computer may "solve" chess one day, but no one person will.

Seconded. Connect 4 is a solved game (you can even find a paper with the proof online) but it still gets played over the board for fun because it is too complicated for a human to memorize/understand all winning lines.

connect 4  has nothing to do with memorizing lines. you couldn't win against me in connect 4 if I go first unless I am really careless.

I have found the system you have to use in order to win.

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I haven't lost a game in connect 4 since I used the strategy mentioned in
http://janderson99.hubpages.com/hub/Winning-Strategies-for-Connect-4-or-Four-in-a-Line-Games

the chart in the strategy is all you need.

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So by that logic they also invented aids,the atom bomb and the concept of genicide!

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MalSwanOfZaga10 stem

So by that logic they also invented aids,the atom bomb and the concept of genicide!

what logic. you mean the periodic table?

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You guys are going too far(MalSwanOfZaga10 and pfren)

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Don't forget mr.bobbyDK and yes I agree, way too far

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according to the law yes i'm still a child i just thought he should know that before he got too rude,and nice stalk on my account.

you're always a child in our eyes

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MalSwanOfZaga10 wrote:

You could have said it a little nicer Im only a kid but thanks anyway.

IM pfren is one of the few titled players (an International Master, in his case) on this forum who is willing to take the time to answer questions and comment on average players' games.

Among the regulars on this site, he is well known for the breadth of his knowledge, and for his incisive opinions and uncompromising point of view.

On the other hand, he is also considered to be "a prickly character"... a descriptive phrase which is sometimes mistakenly abbreviated to "a prick".

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Suffice to say that I will never dress a turd with cherry syrup, and say "here is a candy". No, it's still a turd, and I cannot do much about it.

And this is not just about moves, but also misconceptions, conspiracy theories, and all kinds of ridiculous stuff which is selling very well to chess, or life illiterates.

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Once again I never said I believed it I was just asking a question and I will never give an IM respect just because he is an IM I have to actually respect them first.

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MalSwanOfZaga10 wrote:

Once again I never said I believed it I was just asking a question and I will never give an IM respect just because he is an IM I have to actually respect them first.

Look at it this way. You can go through your life only ever giving people your respect once they have, in your eyes, earned it and that is your choice.

However, looking at it from another point of view - would you go around to someone's house, who you have never met, and tell them they had to earn your respect before you'd listen to them? Probably not. Why is chess.com (the house in this metaphor) any different seeing as pfren is a long term resident and widely respected amongst the community within?

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MatchStickKing wrote:

 

Look at it this way. You can go through your life only ever giving people your respect once they have, in your eyes, earned it and that is your choice.

However, looking at it from another point of view - would you go around to someone's house, who you have never met, and tell them they had to earn your respect before you'd listen to them? Probably not. Why is chess.com (the house in this metaphor) any different seeing as pfren is a long term resident and widely respected amongst the community within?

The point is I'm not going to give him my respect just because he is respected by others,thats the way I live and Chess.com is no different

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pfren wrote:

Suffice to say that I will never dress a turd with cherry syrup, and say "here is a candy". No, it's still a turd, and I cannot do much about it.

And this is not just about moves, but also misconceptions, conspiracy theories, and all kinds of ridiculous stuff which is selling very well to chess, or life illiterates.

Mate, you're an IM. How about getting a proper title..........jackass. 

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Bucko258 wrote:
pfren wrote:

Suffice to say that I will never dress a turd with cherry syrup, and say "here is a candy". No, it's still a turd, and I cannot do much about it.

And this is not just about moves, but also misconceptions, conspiracy theories, and all kinds of ridiculous stuff which is selling very well to chess, or life illiterates.

Mate, you're an IM. How about getting a proper title..........jackass. 

What? an IM is a "proper title"... 

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No as we stated earlier IM is ignorant monkey but in differnt cases it means intellegent magician

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I'm pretty certain that in pfren's case it means incompetent moron

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Even better