French Defense played at highest level?

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Gensokyo_Millenium

Is the french defense played at GM/Super GM level a lot or at all? If yes/no, why/why not?

sndeww

yes I believe Short played it?

whladislav

Magnus and Karjakin played for sure

whladislav

Magnus won with black

pfren

Why do you care if GM ABC played the XYZ opening?

You aren't a GM, and you won't be able to play like a GM for the foreseeable future.

pinkblueecho

Though clearly not as popular as the E5 or C5, the French Defense has been played by Carlsen, So, Rapport, Giri, Nepomniatchi, and Grischuk in recent years.

In fact, Anish Giri just released a course this week on the French Defense (Winawer as the main line, but also covers the usual suspects and some ununsual sidelines) on chessable. There is a FREE short & sweet version with 80 minutes of video to enjoy: https://www.chessable.com/short-sweet-french-defense/course/48354/

pfren
Pepega_Maximum έγραψε:
Thelmposter wrote:

I highly recommend the Winawer against any of the top GMs. People like Nepomniachtchi don't know how to play it. If you need more coaching let me know. Don't let IMs like pfren let you down.

No worries. I'm a french defense veteran. Pfren is very knowledgeable and has helped me on previous posts. However, thank you for giving me the option to receive coaching and motivating me to continue playing the french defense. I will become a grandmaster eventually.

 

In that case you'd better hurry up, because the troll will soon close his account.

Steven-ODonoghue

Acting what way? Everything he said was true. That guy is a troll who opens new accounts every few days.

pfren
Pepega_Maximum έγραψε:

Pfren, why are you acting this way? I don't mean to come off as rude or anything, but I thought we were friends.

 

I admit that I have a few naive friends. Is this a bad thing?

Steven-ODonoghue

It's best to just avoid @TheLmposter and to block any of his new accounts when they come your way

pinkblueecho
Pepega_Maximum hat geschrieben:

Do you think that many people would rather play the c5 tarrasch or Nf6 tarrasch at the higher levels?

 

To name one top level player, Caruana has played both multiple times OTB. According to the other site´s database, c5 has been played 12,838 times and Nf6 12,748 at the master level. 

pfren
Pepega_Maximum έγραψε:

Do you think that many people would rather play the c5 tarrasch or Nf6 tarrasch at the higher levels?

 

Since 3.Nd2 is very solid, but unassuming, Black has a very wide choice: 3...c5 and taking back at d5 with Queen, or pawn, the classical 3...Nf6, and also sidelines like 3...Be7, 3...Nc6 and even 3...h6, which are far from "refuted". Just pick a structure which you can understand, and use it.

captainnegi

short was the master of french and he wrote books on french.

pfren
captainnegi έγραψε:

short was the master of french and he wrote books on french.

 

Name one of them.

captainnegi

french is revisiting at high level with good new ideas. 

pinkblueecho
pfren hat geschrieben:
captainnegi έγραψε:

short was the master of french and he wrote books on french.

 

Name one of them.

 

New Ideas in the French Defense (1991). I haven't read it but it would be interesting to compare with Anish Giri's recent masterwork.

pfren
pinkblueecho έγραψε:
pfren hat geschrieben:
captainnegi έγραψε:

short was the master of french and he wrote books on french.

 

Name one of them.

 

New Ideas in the French Defense (1991). I haven't read it but it would be interesting to compare with Anish Giri's recent masterwork.

 

These "Trends In" and "New ideas in" books of the early nineties were effectively database dumps without any engine analysis (quite natural, engines did not exist then). Add to this the fact chess databases were missing a lot, as the internet was still an infant. At the late eighties I was doing analytical work for the Greek National Chess team using a Panasonic laptop weighting some 6 kg, and which cound use a couple of 720K floppies and a base 640kb of RAM- no hard disk was present, and the CPU was some 10,000 times slower than a modern cheapo smartphone.

pinkblueecho
pfren hat geschrieben:
pinkblueecho έγραψε:
pfren hat geschrieben:
captainnegi έγραψε:

short was the master of french and he wrote books on french.

 

Name one of them.

 

New Ideas in the French Defense (1991). I haven't read it but it would be interesting to compare with Anish Giri's recent masterwork.

 

These "Trends In" and "New ideas in" books of the early nineties were effectively database dumps without any engine analysis (quite natural, engines did not exist then). Add to this the fact chess databases were missing a lot, as the internet was still an infant. At the late eighties I was doing analytical work for the Greek National Chess team using a Panasonic laptop weighting some 6 kg, and which cound use a couple of 720K floppies and a base 640kb of RAM- no hard disk was present, and the CPU was some 10,000 times slower than a modern cheapo smartphone.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

llama
Pepega_Maximum wrote:

Is the french defense played at Super GM level a lot or at all?

I don't remember the last time I saw a super GM play it.

 

Pepega_Maximum wrote:

why?

It's not the easiest way to equalize.

As a super GM you want a super theoretical draw, you don't want to play chess the way 99.9999% of others play it heh.

pinkblueecho
llama hat geschrieben:
Pepega_Maximum wrote:

Is the french defense played at Super GM level a lot or at all?

I don't remember the last time I saw a super GM play it.

 

Pepega_Maximum wrote:

why?

It's not the easiest way to equalize.

As a super GM you want a super theoretical draw, you don't want to play chess the way 99.9999% of others play it heh.

 

It was played twice at the Candidates this year.