Fritz on the web

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Hi there,

I'm wondering why the creator of Fritz are not making an online version. I mean, this is 2012. Who wants to install software on their desktop/laptop anymore? 

Are there any chess software similar offering the same functionality as Fritz available on the web? 

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Fritz is very powerfull engine and It's why people and masters and players use that.Imagine that what will happen if we see fritz on web!It will be like a low rated playerLaughing(I'll beat fritz :D)

Nima

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I guess because chess apps like Fritz are very CPU intensive, so an online version where you could have a few hundreds of requests in parallel would be impractical to serve properly.

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Modern engines take upto 99% of your CPU power and for an online engine to work effectively, they would need to have at least a single processor devoted to each analysis request by each user. That is something Vasik Rajlich of Rybka has been dreaming about, but even in the preliminary brainstorming stage, he gave the impression that it would be very expensive. That would be basically renting a part of a super-computer.

So for a free service, at least the engine needs to run on your computer.

However, I think a "GUI (just the interface) only" web service might be managable.

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C'mon this is the age of Cloud Computing. CPUs are cheap and are easy accessible. Actually a company offers chess analysis from the cloud: http://www.chessific.com/ Would be interesting to try that out ... 

From what I understand Fritz 13 already offer some kind of distributed analysis via their "let's check" option. It's just a matter of scaling this imho. 

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xonbul wrote:

Hi there,

I'm wondering why the creator of Fritz are not making an online version. I mean, this is 2012. Who wants to install software on their desktop/laptop anymore? 

I do, and so will you after your ISP connection fails OR the website where your software is stored can't be accessed for reasons beyound your control.

Are there any chess software similar offering the same functionality as Fritz available on the web? 

http://www.cln.org/searching_faqs.html

Avatar of xonbul

Thanks for your useful comment NimzoRoy. I guess you don't use any online services ...

Anyway ... I guess there is a market for such offering.

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xonbul wrote:

C'mon this is the age of Cloud Computing. CPUs are cheap and are easy accessible. Actually a company offers chess analysis from the cloud: http://www.chessific.com/ Would be interesting to try that out ... 

From what I understand Fritz 13 already offer some kind of distributed analysis via their "let's check" option. It's just a matter of scaling this imho. 

Yes, cloud computing. A word that gives many IT-experts a shiver. However, you could program it to do the calculations clientside. However, would you really like Fritz to be in Java? Isn't it better to use what resources you have, for calculating the moves instead of displaying a java gui? About the cloud... Let's just forget about your chess-engine when your internetconnection drops and assume it will always work perfectly. It would take a really big cluster or a supercomputer to serve any kind of community on a decent level. As a matter of fact, Fritz 13 does have support for the cloud, except, you - the customer - is the cloud. You can let others analyze your positions or analyze others position and earn points with that. Which in turn you can use to let others analyze your position. So Fritz 13 in effect has build it's own cloud of customers-pc's. It's a practice till now mostly use for the 'donate-pc-cycles' projects, but Fritz has adapted nicely to it. 

A pure webbased Fritz while sounding like a nice idea, especially on older hardware, isn't something we are going to see very soon. Chess is pure calculation, you might as well build a cluster or supercomputer to do climate-predictions. Fun and usefull if you have a lot of cash to spare, but I think in the current world it would be commercial unatractive to do such a thing while trying to make a living. 

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xonbul wrote:

Thanks for your useful comment NimzoRoy. I guess you don't use any online services Apparently neither do you or else you've never been unable to connect to the Internet? Or never gone to a website that was down when you wanted to use it? I admire your phenomenal good luck!

 

 

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Check out http://fritzcloud.com