Games like Chess should not have male and female division

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Thank god, we're finally back on track. From now on, I'll be blocking all those accounts who try derailing this thread, starting with @rishikeshwaran. If you're gonna post something off topic, go somewhere else.

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TheEinari wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
recoverypob wrote:
Well if a question keeps being repeated, possibly that indicates an appropriate response hasn’t been presented or heeded yet. And where on the site did it stipulate all posts need to be entirely original? That said the proposition as it appears by the author here seems flawed. Chess the game doesn’t have any division of gender. Governing bodies and tournament organisers may - though there appears to have been some signs of progress at least.

If he were a new account, that's ok, but he's been around a long time. Unfortunately the OP seems to be trolling as he makes the common mistake of suggesting there is a separation of the sexes in chess.

 

This, of course, is not true. Women can compete for all the titles men can, and there are no tournaments that bar women from playing.

 

No separation? So what is Fides Women world championship game, huh? Can everyone take part in that? No. So there is separation of sexes Not in way that women cant compete where they want but the other way around.

Yeah, I talk about that later. I say it's unfair, but people are willing to tolerate it because usually the unfairness goes in the other direction.

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Whether, and how much, there is unfairness towards women in chess
And whether, and how much, it's good to try and counterbalance that with unfairness against men (vs directly combating all unfairness) are topics to consider.

But the way society is, I'm just pointing out, that's why most people don't care about (or tolerate) the fact that females are given extra opportunities (money, titles, tournaments) in chess.

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nimzomalaysian wrote:

Thank god, we're finally back on track.

Yeah, I'm sure troll topics just break your heart /sarcasm

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recoverypob wrote:
Well if a question keeps being repeated, possibly that indicates an appropriate response hasn’t been presented or heeded yet. 

It more likely indicates a failure to grasp the nuances inherent to the issue. 

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batgirl wrote:
recoverypob wrote:
Well if a question keeps being repeated, possibly that indicates an appropriate response hasn’t been presented or heeded yet. 

It more likely indicates a failure to grasp the nuances inherent to the issue. 

I don't know the definition of the word nuance.

I watch Fox News.

I hope you understand.

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As my idol Oreilly always says...

if it's too complex for a 10 year old to understand, then it's not worth trying to understand anyway.

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 I can't even count how many hours I've wasted, trying to educate myself on nuances like woman's issues in modern society.

All the hours were for naught, for my brain was not able.

In the end, I think the most fundamentalist, conservative, values get it right. And those values tell me I'm right, and anyone even slightly not like me is wrong.

I believe, in my gut (not my heart or brain, for I'm thoroughly both heartless and brainless) that anyone not like me is not worth respecting. Also they're not worth trying to understand. Thankfully this is true, because I'm not able to understand much...

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...which partially explains the repetitiveness of this topic.

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:
Vertwitch wrote:

REPORTING DOES WORK.  

Specifically -- explain specifically why you think it works in light of what you've been told about this particular troll.

It works in that the posts from the latest account(s) are removed as soon as he is identified.

It doesn't stop them from creating a new account and continuing on in the same vein. Chess.com has some methods to reduce this, but this person's clearly figured out a way around them. I expect that it's costing them time & effort to do so.

Ignore them and don't quote their content, and it will be gone as soon as a moderator notices, which is almost always less then 24 hours.

Thanks,

David, moderator

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david wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
Vertwitch wrote:

REPORTING DOES WORK.  

Specifically -- explain specifically why you think it works in light of what you've been told about this particular troll.

It works in that the posts from the latest account(s) are removed as soon as he is identified.

It doesn't stop them from creating a new account and continuing on in the same vein. Chess.com has some methods to reduce this, but this person's clearly figured out a way around them. I expect that it's costing them time & effort to do so.

Ignore them and don't quote their content, and it will be gone as soon as a moderator notices, which is almost always less then 24 hours.

Thanks,

David, moderator

Good point, the posts will be deleted.

And yes, after bans, it costs the troll time and effort. I didn't think of it that way.

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Postafi wrote:

"didn't think"

Heh. At least more than the user who spams "reported" like some little kid.

 

It won't stop the troll, but it at least takes a toll in the long run.

I just wish that, if it has been going on for many months, that chess.com would try to contact this person's ISP.

But maybe they're at e.g. a coffee shop or library, so that wouldn't work (at least not right away).

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Reported.   Well no, but I wanted to feel young again. 

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Preggo_Basashi wrote:

As my idol Oreilly always says...

if it's too complex for a 10 year old to understand, then it's not worth trying to understand anyway.

Probably just a gross misunderstanding of the Feynman technique ...

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president_max wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

As my idol Oreilly always says...

if it's too complex for a 10 year old to understand, then it's not worth trying to understand anyway.

Probably just a gross misunderstanding of the Feynman technique ...

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Until you can lift it, apparently 

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Really hardly believe how ****** one need to be for making such a thread. Just let people play against WHOEVERTHEYWANT.

No one bother gay if they wan to play chess together with other gays or policemen vs policemen or doctors or teachers, wine makers, engineers, and whateverthe**** ! And they can call themselves the "Engineer Grand Master" or whatever they want, we don't give it a ****.

 

So what is the problem with women? Stop making an obsession and a fixation on men/women affairs, I know many of you have real problem with this identity and feel very lost as this seems to be to simple for you to catch it (like we are all human beings alike then just have a duty of solidarity with one another just as brother or sisters or brother and sister or whatever). So just let people live the way they want with respect, even more than respect : we shall defend their rights to live the way they want as one day we will need their help to defend the way we want to live ourselves (with more and more intolerance, one day our way will be under attack too, better have shown open mind before when it happens to us because that's how we'll receive some shelter or nothing depending on how we ourselves behaved when it was other's way that were under attack) and let yourself live the way YOU want without having to convert the whole planet to your way just because you're unable to stop this awkward obsession about what women SHOULD do. Women, you know, there has been people telling 'em what they should from the beginning of ages. It seems to be the big game, telling girls what they should do or not as if they were not able to decide themselves. Quite often it's even girls who do it. People tell them how they should dress, who they should talk to, what they should eat, how they should walk, sleep, drive, shop, work... and now who they should play chess against! F-U-C-K ! They are fed-up you know by centuries of this same uninterrupted unworthy behaviour. As if being a girl were a handicap or something and they needed assistance in being girls. There is NO fu***** separation apart seemingly in some few retarded brains/minds (girl's or boy's brains alike as the brain is exactly the same both sides - science fact* - and the deviousness of telling always girls how they should behave is unfortunately spread both sides). No separation exist in chess : women can play with men as far as I know!!!! And they do. That's why Kasparov used to loose against Judith Polgar (except the few times he was cheating to avoid loosing against her but that's another story...)

(Some saying girl brain is different are wrong, only statistically there could be more of this or that, white or grey, but doesn't mean there is a proportion for men and one for women. Proportion is different for each individual, with no frontier to separate. You can not seeing a brain tell if it's man or woman. You can use statistics to increase your chances a little maybe, and that's it.)

 

So women can play with other women too, do tournament with em etc. And of course they can! That's not even a subject of discussion, that's a basic right that only retard people would want to destroy. Whoever want to deny girls the right to play with girls if they like to, is just a ******* ****** and I mean it, be they men or women.

 

Now men have the exact same right. In fact if we want we can play games men only. Just think about it now. Why it doesn't exist? Because usually men want to play with women. And if somehow we reached a situation where there is no full reciprocity, it deserves maybe some little questioning. For the less. Certainly not trying to force them to play with men when they don't want. Obviously we failed giving women tournaments with men where they feel having explored all the pleasure they expect from chess. Trying to make them responsible for that would really be a serious misstep. But anyway this is not the question. After all maybe they just like to play against women time to time just because it pleases them and everyone (not retard) should be fine with that. Because you know if they listen the first person who tell them they should behave like men and play only mixed tournament, then they will soon run into another one telling them they should not behave like men because it's bad. And another one telling another thing. And another one. That's really a tragedy that most men completely fail to recognize. Well they do recognize when it's 1000 years in the past, or in a Muslim country. But when they do it themselves... They turn pretty blind suddenly. Mostly because they love to tell girls how they should behave so they wouldn't agree this is happening. But this is happening all the time and it really really really sux like hell.

 

Macondo : "but if women want to see a change in this odd gender division in chess, could they not simply choose to compete against men?"

 

They do. That's why this whole topic is just pure ********. These people are inventing problems that doesn't exist to make their miserable life look more interesting trying to solve them I guess.

Whoever want to play chess can play with whoever he wants as long as the other is OK for that. Period. Any other consideration is real gibberish for miserable flies f*****s. And the fact that FIDE makes it official title a woman grand master or not has no accuracy and agitates only the same F.Fs. If it weren't FIDE it would be anyotherthing. And it wouldn't change anything as it only agitates the mind of those who are unable to refrain loading their big pistol whenever they see a fly (or imagine one) to f.....

(Now some underline it's business. Well wake-up people it ain't no scoop! The whole FIDE is business.)

 

Yes I never speak/write bad words usually, fist time here. Not proud of it, but unable to erase it because I really mean it. Pretty much very fed-up with these how-you-should-behave tellers. Really quiet fed way up you know.

 

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Cylvouplay wrote:

Really hardly believe how ****** one need to be for making such a thread. Just let people play against WHOTHEF|_|CKEVERTHEYWANT.

No one bother gay if they wan to play chess together with other gays or policemen vs policemen or doctors or teachers, wine makers, engineers, and whateverthe**** ! And they can call themselves the "Engineer Grand Master" or whatever they want, we don't give it a ****.

 

So what is the problem with women? Stop making an obsession and a fixation on men/women affairs, I know many of you have real problem with this identity and feel very lost as this seems to be to simple for you to catch it (like we are all human beings alike then just have a duty of solidarity with one another just as brother or sisters or brother and sister or whatever). So just let people live the way they want with respect, even more than respect : we shall defend their rights to live the way they want as one day we will need their help to defend the way we want to live ourselves (with more and more intolerance, one day our way will be under attack too, better have shown open mind before when it happens to us because that's how we'll receive some shelter or nothing depending on how we ourselves behaved when it was other's way that were under attack) and let yourself live the way YOU want without having to convert the whole planet to your way just because you're unable to stop this awkward obsession about what women SHOULD do. Women, you know, there has been people telling 'em what they should from the beginning of ages. It seems to be the big game, telling girls what they should do or not as if they were not able to decide themselves. Quite often it's even girls who do it. People tell them how they should dress, who they should talk to, what they should eat, how they should walk, sleep, drive, shop, work... and now who they should play chess against! F-U-C-K ! They are fed-up you know by centuries of this same uninterrupted unworthy behaviour. As if being a girl were a handicap or something and they needed assistance in being girls. There is NO fu***** separation apart seemingly in some few retarded brains/minds (girl's or boy's brains alike as the brain is exactly the same both sides - science fact* - and the deviousness of telling always girls how they should behave is unfortunately spread both sides). No separation exist in chess : women can play with men as far as I know!!!! And they do. That's why Kasparov used to loose against Judith Polgar (except the few times he was cheating to avoid loosing against her but that's another story...)

(Some saying girl brain is different are wrong, only statistically there could be more of this or that, white or grey, but doesn't mean there is a proportion for men and one for women. Proportion is different for each individual, with no frontier to separate. You can not seeing a brain tell if it's man or woman. You can use statistics to increase your chances a little maybe, and that's it.)

 

So women can play with other women too, do tournament with em etc. And of course they can! That's not even a subject of discussion, that's a basic right that only retard people would want to destroy. Whoever want to deny girls the right to play with girls if they like to, is just a ******* ****** and I mean it, be they men or women.

 

Now men have the exact same right. In fact if we want we can play games men only. Just think about it now. Why it doesn't exist? Because usually men want to play with women. And if somehow we reached a situation where there is no full reciprocity, it deserves maybe some little questioning. For the less. Certainly not trying to force them to play with men when they don't want. Obviously we failed giving women tournaments with men where they feel having explored all the pleasure they expect from chess. Trying to make them responsible for that would really be a serious misstep. But anyway this is not the question. After all maybe they just like to play against women time to time just because it pleases them and everyone (not retard) should be fine with that. Because you know if they listen the first person who tell them they should behave like men and play only mixed tournament, then they will soon run into another one telling them they should not behave like men because it's bad. And another one telling another thing. And another one. That's really a tragedy that most men completely fail to recognize. Well they do recognize when it's 1000 years in the past, or in a Muslim country. But when they do it themselves... They turn pretty blind suddenly. Mostly because they love to tell girls how they should behave so they wouldn't agree this is happening. But this is happening all the time and it really really really sux like hell.

 

Macondo : "but if women want to see a change in this odd gender division in chess, could they not simply choose to compete against men?"

 

They do. That's why this whole topic is just pure ********. These people are inventing problems that doesn't exist to make their miserable life look more interesting trying to solve them I guess.

Whoever want to play chess can play with whoever he wants as long as the other is OK for that. Period. Any other consideration is real gibberish for miserable flies f*****s. And the fact that FIDE makes it official title a woman grand master or not has no accuracy and agitates only the same F.Fs. If it weren't FIDE it would be anyotherthing. And it wouldn't change anything as it only agitates the mind of those who are unable to refrain loading their big pistol whenever they see a fly (or imagine one) to f.....

(Now some underline it's business. Well wake-up people it ain't no scoop! The whole FIDE is business.)

 

Yes I never speak/write bad words usually, fist time here. Not proud of it, but unable to erase it because I really mean it. Pretty much very fed-up with these how-you-should-behave tellers. Really quiet fed way up you know.

Reminds me of the fluid they made me drink before colonoscopy and its aftereffects ... Sorry 

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Seriously though, I think the point being made was, s'il vous plait, there are no official gay or African or other restrictive titles unlike women titles.

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ilovesmetuna wrote:

kinda reminds me of Andy Clinton.

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