Gambits against the Sicilian

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Avatar of Sweagen

Wing Gambit... it's b4 after the c5... so they usually take

 

and I won because I had no idea what I was doing and even though I blocked my knight in the corner because of stupid pawn mistakes my opponent messed up worse and blundered the game :D

Avatar of NihilMonkey

No need.  The open Sicilian gets as hairy and double edged as any gambit out there.

IIf it helps, you can think of it as a kind of a gambit.  Typically, you think of a gambit as a material gambit.  But the open Sicilian is a sort of positional gambit.  Giving up central pawn control in exchange for rapid development.  White must go on the offensive, and push his developmental edge before black can organize his forces and get to a very good middle and endgame, courtesy of his probable pawn structure plus.

Avatar of PrawnEatsPrawn

@ mottsauce: For how many games did you try the various gambits?

 

p.s. I took a look myself:

 

 

So, the answer is "not many games" but you scored rather well with both the Morra Gambit and the Wing Gambit. I fail to see a problem.

Avatar of Whyohwhy

Try the Grand-prix (2.f4) or defer it with Nc3 first. OR the wing gambit is always good for a laugh, though I must confess it never did me much good, all things considered... Personally I can't see the point of chess without gambits, so gambit on!

Avatar of smartens

I use the smith-morra.  It took me many, many games to get comfortable with it, but I think it was worth it to avoid all the theory and pet lines in the open sicilian games.

Avatar of mottsauce

@Prawn: hey thanks! could you look at the stats for 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 (Nc6 or d6) 3. b5? wing gambit deferred? I used that a bunch, I believe :)

Avatar of Muramune

Just wondering, what's the point of the Smith Morra? I don't doubt it is a good opening, but I've actually never lost playing against it as Black with players around my level... I'd actually like to consider playing some gambits myself and Sicilian can be annoying for me as White but I'm reluctant to pick up something I've easily found equality against.

Avatar of PrawnEatsPrawn
mottsauce wrote:

@Prawn: hey thanks! could you look at the stats for 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 (Nc6 or d6) 3. b5? wing gambit deferred? I used that a bunch, I believe :)


 

Not ideal but again, not many games played.

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thanks for all of your comments!

Avatar of Travisjw
Muramune wrote:

Just wondering, what's the point of the Smith Morra? I don't doubt it is a good opening, but I've actually never lost playing against it as Black with players around my level... I'd actually like to consider playing some gambits myself and Sicilian can be annoying for me as White but I'm reluctant to pick up something I've easily found equality against.


 White's goal is to give up a pawn to grab 2 tempo (1 by clearing the d2 square so his bishop can develop, and one after developing the knight to c3 with tempo by taking).  I've played it a bit recently but honestly I can't claim to be very fond of it.   I like having a 2-3 piece edge in development through most of the opening, but the black position doesn't really have a lot of weaknesses to attack and white's inability to exert central control is *very* frustrating.  I'll still play it off and on, but I'm switching back to the open sicilian as my "default" reply.