Stagnation

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Does she want to get better as much as you want her to get better?
MuhammadAreez10

If she is really serious about chess then would any advice on improvement work. If she's not, let it be of course.

MuhammadAreez10

If she wants to be a master, whatever her age is, you should help her improve definitely. My 2 cents. I hope others explain how to put this into effect.

Progressant
Do you play decent chess too? Perhaps try playing stronger players than her. So she cant win without playing better chess. And analysing the expected losses properly. Try to spot a them in her games that can be improved. Does she come worse off in openings? How is her end game. Etc. You can really only spot that when she plays equal or better players
TatsumakiRonyk

Bring her apparent lack of progress up to her coach, and see what he/she suggests.

There's also the chance that your daughter may not have found the end of her potential, but the end of her current coach's potential.

Tell her that Chess.com is rooting for her! happy.png

gingerninja2003

keep her going. when she gets to a teenager be careful. social media has a big impact on these peoples lives try to keep her away from Facebook and twitter. otherwise she'd be known as 'the girl who likes chess' and in this day and age no-one likes that and thus may steer away from chess. in a way make her unpopular so no-one cares what she likes. make sure she has friends though.

pfren

At that age (8 y.o.) chess should be, first and foremost, a GAME for her.

Just do not try making it a lesson/ study subject. Chances are she will hate it, and give up on it.

 

MuhammadAreez10

pfren's advice = gold

IMBacon22
tinasuo wrote:

Hi Everyone, I'm assuming that you (except for the lucky few that have been blessed by Caissa) have at some point ran into this issue: stagnation.

 

My child uses my account to practice (TT, live games, etc). She has started learning chess seriously for about a year now (got a private coach last August), and participated a handful of scholastic tournaments. We have been doing tournaments about once every other month, but has picked up the pace during the last two months, averaging about once every other week. Her USCF rating just crossed 1000 but I'm seeing that other kids who started around the same time have greatly surpassed her. In my mind, she does plenty every day, doing tactics (online and on book) about 30 minutes to an hour, and play a few games online fairly regularly. However, recently I'm not seeing any progress in her games. Even the games she won, I felt that she was not playing at her best. She has an OK TT rating (1600 or so), but can't seem to apply tactics in her games consistently. 

 

I'm wondering what I can do to help her make some progress? I feel that she's spending a lot of time on chess already, and I'm not so convinced that there's much marginal benefit of adding another hour of study every day, rather a great risk of burning her out. Is she not playing enough tournaments? Should she start thinking more of the positional ideas instead of focusing on tactics?

 

Apologies for sounding frustrated a bit. But has any of you encountered this and how did you get past it? 

 

Thanks a bunch!

1. DO NOT compare your child’s progress to others.  All children are different, and learn at different rates. 

 

2. Stagnation happens for many reasons.  It can be part of the learning process.  All you can do is keep at it, and get past it.  Is your child not that interested in chess?  Are you pushing her to hard?  Has she simply reached a point where she is happy with where she is at? 

 

3. Keep the game FUN.  I can’t stress this enough.  Remember that chess is a game, and games should be fun. 

 

4. Is the issue here coach?  Have you talked to her about her coach?

 

 

In the end, your daughter just may not be that into chess, she may have hit a road block, and doesn’t know how to get past it, maybe her coach isn’t right for her.  The only way to know is to talk to them.

ElSolido

Try to give her a break from chess for a week or so....although it's easier said than done

daxypoo
i used to play tennis professionally and still coach/teach the game

i think tournament tennis and chess are very similar- especially for jr/scholastic

in jr tennis there are some ageless hurdles/adversaries young players must deal with- the pusher, the cheater, the intimidator, the bluffer and- not least of all- the crazy parents

in all age groups there is the "archetype" player who excels but, for varying reasons, does not progress much as they get older (physical limitations, early success breeding fear at expanding one's game, parental issues, loss of interest, etc.)

at the very least your daughter is being exposed to many facets of human nature many of her non-chess tournament peers are completely oblivious about. this alone is of great benefit even if it doesnt seem like it at the moment

the questions i would ask myself is- is my daughter improving? does she enjoy a competitive environment? does she like to play chess? does she like to practice? does she practice on her own with little need to push her?

i would also reiterate the importance of not comparing your kid's "development" too much with other kids
one can use the stronger kids' play as a barometer but try not to get hung up on it
trust your instincts and dont get derailed by the crazy parents

best of luck
thatwhichpasses
Every time she makes the slightest mistake you can shock her with battery cables. She'll get better fast and make you proud of her finally.
woton
tinasuo wrote:

I understand on a rational level, but it's hard not to start comparing her versus other kids.

 

I live in NYC, and every scholastic tournament I go I have some unpleasant experience, with kids parents constantly talking about rating points and how fast their kids have progressed..." 

The parent thing (adults feeding their egos on their children's accomplishments) happens everywhere.  It's one thing to be proud of your children's accomplishments, quite another to think that you are something special because of what your child has accomplished.

Ignore the egocentrics and talk with the parents who can keep things in perspective.  When I was active in chess, I frequently talked with a mother whose 8-year old son had a 1600 or 1700 USCF rating. She was a very pleasant person and we had some interesting conversations.  She never talked about rating points or her son's rapid progress.  She was more concerned about his keeping things in perspective.

I ran into both the mother and son recently.  He is a very polite 17-year old with a 2200+ rating, and she is still a very interesting person to have a conversation with.

DiogenesDue
tinasuo wrote:

 I myself is not a chess player, at all. So I'm lost as to how to help her.

 

 

This begs the question of why you care.  Let her play and gravitate where she wants to go.  It's up to her if she has the drive or not.  You should not be supplying it.

Yes, I know, she said she wants to be a master.  She probably wants to be President, too.  And a real life Pokemon trainer.  And own a unicorn pony.  She will choose which dreams are most important.

JamesColeman

She has to be enjoying it. I'm a full-time coach and coach kids all the time, you'd be astonished at the amount of parents who genuinely think their kids want coaching and like chess and yet I can tell they are just not interested in it whatsoever. The majority of these kids don't make it past a very basic level. (I'm not saying that's the case here - I've no idea). 

 

I wouldn't worry about her progressing or not. It doesn't matter as she's so young and has so much time to improve. If she genuinely likes chess then she'll be motivated and the imrprovement will come of its own accord. 

 

 

SeniorPatzer

1000 is pretty good for an 8-year old girl.  Sounds like she is making fine progress.