Why is chess not at the olympics?

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AmnesiaHazeIII wrote:
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FearlessPuffin wrote:

Well a website says "Chess has been recognized as a sport by the International Olympic Committee since 2000." I also agree that chess should be a sport. I mean, if shooting is a sport, why isn't chess? If shooting is considered "A physical activity", why shouldn't chess be considered that too?

For the same reason that's been repeated a thousand times. Because shooting (and all other sports) rely on physical skill. Chess does not. Chess has no physical skill, at all. There is zero necessity for physical talent or ability. Whereas sports all require physical skill. 

Thats the thing that will never raise chess to the level of sport. That is until the definition of sport changes, and things like crossword puzzles and Scrabble become sports. 

ICO is opening to the e-sports. speed chess games are not so different. is it all about money? maybe.

I don't know what ICO is. But I see no problem having a separate category for video games and other esports. But it seems to me chess is a board game, not an esport. 

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ricorat wrote:

I could be wrong but I read somewhere at chess willl  in the 2024 olympics

Extremely unlikely. As has been said before, chess has it's own competitions, apart from sports. So maybe you read that it was going to be in one of those competitions, not the Olympics. 

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Okay this is the article

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chess-olympics/chess-makes-move-for-inclusion-at-2024-paris-olympics-idUSKCN1Q12N4

it says that FIDE is trying to put chess in the 2024 Olympics in Paris.

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IF FIDE can find a way to grift the Olympics and line their own pockets you can rest assured they will try everything they can to get chess into them.

 

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Simply put: Chess really isn't a sport. There are some people claiming it is, but it cannot be by definition because sport is defined as a physically intensive task. Sure, you have move the pieces, but that isn't intensive and nobody is cheering for you to move a small, light-weight figure a few centimeters.

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Ok, ok. Chess is not a sport. But can we make chess boxing an Olympic sport?

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ricorat wrote:

Okay this is the article

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chess-olympics/chess-makes-move-for-inclusion-at-2024-paris-olympics-idUSKCN1Q12N4

it says that FIDE is trying to put chess in the 2024 Olympics in Paris.

Ah. That article is over 2 years old. So they probably failed. BUT, as others have said, if you are willing to bribe the right people anything is possible. The Olympic committee has a long history of corruption, so it might not be so difficult to pull it off. If it ever did happen it would probably be a one time thing. There just isn't much money in chess, so the bribes would be relatively low.

 

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Here is my answer to your question, Ricorat.

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Due to the campaign FIDE has decided to advocate for chess by nominating it for the Olympic Games. The sports director for the Olympic Games in Paris had criteria for chess to be allowed as a sport. That Chess has a tradition in France and that the game must speak to the youth of France.

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It may not be right.

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I don't know though.

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ChesswithNickolay wrote:
FearlessPuffin wrote:

Well a website says "Chess has been recognized as a sport by the International Olympic Committee since 2000." I also agree that chess should be a sport. I mean, if shooting is a sport, why isn't chess? If shooting is considered "A physical activity", why shouldn't chess be considered that too?

ypu mean wikapeadia

Did you actually think I would actually use wikipedia for evidence?

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xXHazzaBXx wrote:

Simply put: Chess really isn't a sport. There are some people claiming it is, but it cannot be by definition because sport is defined as a physically intensive task. Sure, you have move the pieces, but that isn't intensive and nobody is cheering for you to move a small, light-weight figure a few centimeters.

Giant bullet chess is a solution to the problem of chess not requiring physical effort.

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Chess is happy being under its own organizations

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Chess requires no physical ability. You could theoretically move the pieces by simply speaking. Heck, e-sports require more dexterity, and physical ability than chess.
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Ratdude010 wrote:
Chess requires no physical ability. You could theoretically move the pieces by simply speaking. Heck, e-sports require more dexterity, and physical ability than chess.

Actually I read somewhere that top chess players burn 6000 calories a game so they have to be in good shape.

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Nomad1004 wrote:
ricorat wrote:
Ratdude010 wrote:
Chess requires no physical ability. You could theoretically move the pieces by simply speaking. Heck, e-sports require more dexterity, and physical ability than chess.

Actually I read somewhere that top chess players burn 6000 calories a game so they have to be in good shape.

I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the human population doesn't burn 6000 calories when they play Chess bro

Also 6000 calories? Are u even listening to urself speak? LMAO

"I read somewhere this, I read somewhere that"

Someone should really just stamp "gullible" onto ur forehead

Here is the article

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/27593253/why-grandmasters-magnus-carlsen-fabiano-caruana-lose-weight-playing-chess

I would recommend you read it because even if you don’t  believe it, it is still interesting.

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lfPatriotGames ha scritto:
AmnesiaHazeIII wrote:
lfPatriotGames ha scritto:
FearlessPuffin wrote:

Well a website says "Chess has been recognized as a sport by the International Olympic Committee since 2000." I also agree that chess should be a sport. I mean, if shooting is a sport, why isn't chess? If shooting is considered "A physical activity", why shouldn't chess be considered that too?

For the same reason that's been repeated a thousand times. Because shooting (and all other sports) rely on physical skill. Chess does not. Chess has no physical skill, at all. There is zero necessity for physical talent or ability. Whereas sports all require physical skill. 

Thats the thing that will never raise chess to the level of sport. That is until the definition of sport changes, and things like crossword puzzles and Scrabble become sports. 

ICO is opening to the e-sports. speed chess games are not so different. is it all about money? maybe.

I don't know what ICO is. But I see no problem having a separate category for video games and other esports. But it seems to me chess is a board game, not an esport. 

chess is not like esports just because one is phisycal and the others are virtual? nonsense. according to you we colud play the olympic chess tournament here on chess.com.

i think you didn't get the point here. i don't know if you ever played fifa or other videogames so called "esports", but the requested manual and brain skills in this games are nothing in comparison with real speed chess game final. I really can't see the differences. besides money. IOC dosen't like money. everybody knows.

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lfPatriotGames wrote:

Because the Olympic Games do not have board games. They have competitions that are exciting and fun to watch.

There are plenty of competitions in the Olympics that are not "fun to watch" (e.g. curling, water polo, and some others that almost nobody watches). Chess, by contrast, has a broad range of viewership and is more complex in terms of strategy than many "sports" at the Olympics.

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As I understand it, one of the big sticking points has been drug testing. Olympic sports require drug tests, not just at the actual Olympics, but also at qualifying events.

Given that there's no known drug that improves chess playing ability, the chess world wants to be exempt from this. Drug testing is expensive, and national chess federations don't have the money to spare for such a pointless and costly hassle. Many top players also don't want to be held to the strict regimen of Olympic athletes, who have to be extremely careful about everything they eat and every medication they take. Players could be disqualified for taking the wrong cough medicine, or for legally smoking marijuana.  Since the Olympic committee understandably doesn't want to exempt any sport from drug testing, this issue remains unresolved.

I don't expect it to be resolved any time soon. The chess world doesn't need the Olympics, we already have our own Olympiad.