GMs play like average players.

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sohum3894
I think there is not much of a difference between a GM and a player with rating in the range of 1800-2200. The openings whicj the GMs play are almost the same as average players. Then where is the difference? Do GMs have a psychological advantage just because they have the title of a 'GM'? What magic do the GMs do which the average players miss?
eaguiraud

Skill

Dr_Not_Nyc

Very true, how do they calculate on addition, coz wen we watching their games live, sometimes we c wat they play.

gchess33

They have much better intuition when it comes to positional decisions and strategy.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Yup, no difference. Their universe of legal moves is just the same as those of the regular folk.

SmyslovFan

Ozzie beat me to it. 

On a semi-serious note, Max Pomeranc was coached on how to move the pieces like a chess player for his role in Searching for Bobby Fischer. Apparently, you really can tell the difference between a GM and a non-chess player by how they move the pieces.

u0110001101101000

Comparing 2200 to 2500-2600, sure, the majority of the moves will be the same.

It's the moves that are different that make all the difference though. It only takes one extra insight... one move even, to turn the game to your favor.

SmyslovFan

I have a +2500 rated friend who watched as I gave a simul. After the simul, he said that only someone rated +2000 could have told the difference between us. 

Chess is a beautiful art form, but it's one that requires an expert eye to really begin to see the beauty.

SmyslovFan

There are people here who know who I am, Yuri. I can back up everything I say about myself. I never made master, but I have been a chess coach for more than 25 years.

NeedadumpTruckMama

No no, here, average players play like GMs.

Robert_New_Alekhine
SmyslovFan wrote:

Ozzie beat me to it. 

On a semi-serious note, Max Pomeranc was coached on how to move the pieces like a chess player for his role in Searching for Bobby Fischer. Apparently, you really can tell the difference between a GM and a non-chess player by how they move the pieces.

I think there was even an article by Andy Solstis in Chess Life on the topic. 

Robert_New_Alekhine
eaguiraud wrote:

Skill

I think that was the best answer by far. 

ModestAndPolite

 

Irrespective of your age, ambition or existing standard you are very unlikely to become a GM, because very very few people that take up chess ever become GMs or, for that matter gain any lesser title.

You are certainly not going to do it in 3 years.  If you were already playing at strong IM Level it could easily take 3 years to acquire the necessary norms and rating for the GM title.

You may not be able to see the difference between 1800 rated players and GMs, but I assure that it exists.  I have played many 1800 players OTB and have a very high plus score from those games.  I have played quite a few grandmasters and have lost every time.  Sometimes I was smashed off the board.  Sometimes I was ground down. It made no difference, one way or another I lost.  But unlike the games that I have lost against IMs and FMs the losses to GMs seemed inevitable. I never had a chance.

You cannot know at this stage where your limits as a chess player lie, but rather than make grandiose and unrealistic plans it is better just to concentrate on fixing the worst weaknesses in your game and moving up to the next level.  If you are rated in the 1400s then reaching 1500+ is realistic.  If you were already 2100+ then getting over 2200 would be realistic. Being rated around 1450 and planning to reach 2500+ in 3 years is just bonkers.

If you carry on making this kind of post (you've made a few more that show a lack of understanding of just how strong a GM is at chess) you'll just get ridiculed by the strong players on chess.com.

 

solskytz

GMs play like players rated 1800-2200. The only difference is PR and respect. People believe that because they are GMs, they deserve wins and points.

 

(excerpt taken from "the chess world through the eyes of a 1300 player")

xman720

According to GM Ben Finegold, GMs show their skills by playing boring moves so that when their opponents fall asleep they can take pieces off the board. The highest rated GMs are the GMs with the most endurance.

solskytz

Endurance is a great factor in strong chess play. 

Endurance to boredom

Endurance and staying alert...

Endurance to shifts in evaluation - sudden or gradual

Endurance to changes in the nature of the position

Endurance in defense

Endurance as in willing to defend for a long time, but staying ready to spring to action should occasion arise

Endurance in laying a long-term siege, refusal to relent...

Endurance in time trouble

I'm sure I could list some more elements... but it all definitely plays a huge part in a player's strength.

SmyslovFan

Anyone who's ever actually played or analysed with a GM knows the difference is not just endurance. GMs have talent.

xman720

Without endurance, how do you stay awake longer than the other GM so you can start taking pieces off the board?

 

Okay, but to be serious for a second, my favorite part of the original post is how he casually refers to GM playing as being in the "1800 - 2200" rating range which is a freaking huge rating range with multiple layers of "Player a beats player b 9/10 times." It's like if somebody said "what's your chess strength" and you were like "500 to 1300." He would probably respond, "wait, so do you not know how the pieces move or are you just learning basic positional concepts and tactical patterns? Which is it?"

SmyslovFan

xman, play bullet chess.

But even then, the GMs will demolish you.