There are plenty of reasons why people use vacation. For those who propose to modify the rules to benefit themselves to suggest otherwise is absurd.
For example, it is a common fallacy to suggest that people who are "on vacation" should not have the right to come here to play live chess (really gets these rule modifier proponents up in arms!), or to browse in the forums. Is it really that hard to imagine that your game with this opponent is not at the center of the universe?
As with everything else though, there are people who abuse the feature. I am sure the vast majority of people genuinely are using it fairly, but there are always those who will take any feature available and twist it's purpose.
There was a thread recently where someone was copying each move a player made. The suggestion was to slow down on one game and speed up on another. Perfectly logical. However, that player can just use vacation time indefinitely to keep both games running at the same speed.
I am not against vacation time. It's saved me from a couple of timeouts on occasion, or with a particularly busy work week it is nice to have that cushion. The thing is, some tweaks could make it more difficult for the people abusing the system to carry on doing so.
I know this shouldn't have to happen but, as with many other things in life, idiots are using it to make life difficult for the honest players.
There are plenty of reasons why people use vacation. For those who propose to modify the rules to benefit themselves to suggest otherwise is absurd.
For example, it is a common fallacy to suggest that people who are "on vacation" should not have the right to come here to play live chess (really gets these rule modifier proponents up in arms!), or to browse in the forums. Is it really that hard to imagine that your game with this opponent is not at the center of the universe?
The site rules explain exactly what vacation time is for and anything else is "vacation abuse"
Why should you be entitled to delay turn-based games and yet post on forums/play live?
If you agreed a 3 day time control, then play a move within 3 days and don't use vacation time to prolong it unreasonably.
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The site rules explain exactly what vacation time is for and anything else is "vacation abuse"
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Really? I'd rather say that the site rules explain exactly what vacation abuse is: http://support.chess.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/104/0/what-is-vacation-abuse.
Everything else is vacation use, not abuse.
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Play tournaments where vaction isn't allowed - simple.
What a bunch of whining. Just schedule another game and get on with things. So a game that would otherwise take 3 or 4 months now takes 6 months, or a tournament that woud take two years takes three. Who cares? This issue should be somewhere around 187th on your list of priorities.
I agree. There should be an option not to allow vacation when we are starting a Game.
Totally agree...other sites offer no vacations, because vacationers ruin the game, as do people playing a 3 day game and waiting until the last few hours to make a move.
Yes. How dare those people who agree to a game with a 3day/move time control use 3 days per move! The nerve of some people.
If you don't think you are getting enough chess because of people using their full 3 days, then the simple solution is schedule more games, or shorter time limits.
I schedule enough games to keep me busy. I typically carry something like 20 games. With that load, for me, it matters not at all how long someone is taking on a move, I always have moves to make.
So adjust your workload to suit, and don't even care how long any particular game takes. Life becomes simpler.
If you don't think you are getting enough chess because of people using their full 3 days, then the simple solution is schedule more games, or shorter time limits.
I schedule enough games to keep me busy. I typically carry something like 20 games. With that load, for me, it matters not at all how long someone is taking on a move, I always have moves to make.
So adjust your workload to suit, and don't even care how long any particular game takes. Life becomes simpler.
I agree. Don't let folks get to you. I have three people who should have resigned long ago (a couple are just a matter of how many moves to checkmate). They started taking three full days per move so I started a couple more to keep me busy.
I don't understand what is with people complaining about people using 3 days per move when I play 14 days per move and most people use their time wisely. Heck I had a rather short game that ended recently that lasted only 18 months.
its not a bad idea
@Mathbandit
Okay. But that still doesn't explain why, when you come off vacation, your clock should reset. you should get like 6 hours tops.
Instead of let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Trolling 30 days of vacation over 120 days. There have been numerous simple solutions on this thread alone which would make Vacations less easily abusable. Thereby making Chess.com more enjoyable.
What in the world makes you think the clock resets?
Because every single time his clock runs out, he would go on vacation, and every single time he came off vacation, his tiome was back up to 3 days? Which he would let run out, so he could go back on vacataion? Without ever making a single move?
Is that a good reason?
well he would eventually run out of vacation
Yes. Whoever in chess.com thought that the poet had entertainment and informative value had a worse idea than vacations.
lol
The site rules explain exactly what vacation time is for and anything else is "vacation abuse"
Really? I'd rather say that the site rules explain exactly what vacation abuse is: http://support.chess.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/104/0/what-is-vacation-abuse.
Everything else is vacation use, not abuse.
At this point I give up; even allowing for non-English speaking confusion, this is banal by any reasonable standards.
Thread untracked and goodnight.
I agree. There should be an option not to allow vacation when we are starting a Game.
Totally agree...other sites offer no vacations, because vacationers ruin the game, as do people playing a 3 day game and waiting until the last few hours to make a move.
Yes. How dare those people who agree to a game with a 3day/move time control use 3 days per move! The nerve of some people.
3 days/ move is fine. In that game I waited 6 weeks for one move! While my opponent only used maybe 16 days of vacation.
Now to me, that would be called abuse.
Or am I just being unreasonable there?
@Mathbandit
Okay. But that still doesn't explain why, when you come off vacation, your clock should reset. you should get like 6 hours tops.
Instead of let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Let clock run for 3 days. Auto vacation, one day.
Trolling 30 days of vacation over 120 days. There have been numerous simple solutions on this thread alone which would make Vacations less easily abusable. Thereby making Chess.com more enjoyable.
What in the world makes you think the clock resets?
Because every single time his clock runs out, he would go on vacation, and every single time he came off vacation, his tiome was back up to 3 days? Which he would let run out, so he could go back on vacataion? Without ever making a single move?
Is that a good reason?
So why doesn't it happen to me?
Perhaps the staff hates me, and someone personally sees to it that, out of all the chess.com members, my clock alone does not reset.
That must be it. Yes, obviously you are right, everyone's clock resets but mine.
If you can only join one tournament, then simply join a no-vacation tournament. I am not sure what the fuss is about.
Gosh, why have a simple answer when you can instead have 4 pages of whining?
Of course, someone will pop in and say :"but it will take me a year to get out of my current tournament when I foolishly entered a vacation tournament", to which I respond "yeah, same here, I have this no vacation tournament I foolishly entered, will take me a year to be rid of it as well."
Next time, we both will read the fine print and think more carefully, yes?