Have you ever heard of a chess player rated over 2000 commit a crime of any type
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I heard a chess player that's name starts with E during WWII sent to jail
quantumlee wrote:
i am talking on some facts...e.g : it is estimated that about 10-12 percent of all the human population in the world (including all nations) consist of psycopaths excluding potential criminals.......so really i am delightfull to see that this ratio is way way to low among really good chess players.....
Did you know all doctors like to eat rice? Did you know elephants are in fact yellow? Did you know that on mars, there are aliens masturbating? No you didn't. Would you like some more made up facts?
Darth_Algar wrote:
OP asks for chess players over 2000 elo who have commited a crime of any type, then goes on to dismiss the answers given, then starts insulting others. So then, OP, what was the point of this thread if you're only going to be dismissive and belligerent?
Since when do things need a point when they allow to be dismissive and belligerent?
Lenudan wrote:
quantumlee wrote:
i counted from the begining including allegedly mentioned fischer and kasparov and it makes 16 criminals......is it much for a pool of perhaps 150-200 thousand players throughout history among over 2000 rated people...
Well, considering that 95% of all criminal acts are never witnessed or prosecuted, yea, I consider that 'much'
Methinks that the '95%' above was extracted from someone's bottom, but the point stands.
The other thing is that "chess players >2000 with a criminal record" is a strange cross-category with little incentive to check. FIDE does not check the players' criminal records, and chess is rarely talked about at trial.
The only guys who might get in the radar have to be exceptional in either of the two categories. In this thread so far the players mentioned were world-class. I suppose a serial killer might attract a headline like "genius in chess and crime" if it was fit. In any case, we are not sampling from (good chess players + criminals), but rather from (exceptional chess players + terrible criminals) which is a much smaller population (nowhere near a hundred thousand).
Drugs.
i just walked over the street while it was red light!!!!!
Well, below are some who have been arrested at least. A lot. I'm not sure if anyone knows of William Winter. Due to serious problems of the scotch (not the opening) nature, he never realized his true potential. Arrested mutiple times for sedition. However, he authored notable books including Chess for Match Players. My friend who is a USCF Expert credits this books as having molded his chess career.
http://www.chess.com/blog/billwall/arrested-chess-players
You'd think they'd have better planning :P
Aug 26, 2015
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#89
I've sometimes wondered nervously if anyone might think I'm Brian Eley who has been on the run for decades, wanted for sex offences against minors. Apart from my chosen name which I use here and on various other sites, I share with Eley being originally British and having moved to The Netherlands in the early 1990s (Eley is believed to have fled to Amsterdam around that time). Fortunately anyone who glances at my ratings will see that I'm hardly likely to be a former British Champion, as Eley is.
Aug 26, 2015
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#90
Well, Carlsen did a photo shoot with Liv Tyler and didn't try to hit that ... that's a crime in my book. ;)
Aug 26, 2015
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#92
Brian-E wrote:
I've sometimes wondered nervously if anyone might think I'm Brian Eley who has been on the run for decades, wanted for sex offences against minors. Apart from my chosen name which I use here and on various other sites, I share with Eley being originally British and having moved to The Netherlands in the early 1990s (Eley is believed to have fled to Amsterdam around that time). Fortunately anyone who glances at my ratings will see that I'm hardly likely to be a former British Champion, as Eley is.
You are over 2000, I just reported you.
Billion_Tactics_Boy wrote:
This one is the funniest. Arrest of Paul Charles Dozsa (highest rating 2230). Had me creasing 😂😂😂😂
"You sir, are you waiting to receive my limp penis?" XD
Aug 27, 2015
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#94
You'd think they might commit more, seeing as how the punishment (prison) wouldn't keep them from what they love doing. Of course it would probably be hard to find decent competition in prison. Not to mention if you beat someone they will probably get all butthurt because they are volatile, irrational people to be there in the first place.
Sorry, I just had to use the word "butthurt" and "prison" in the same paragraph.
Rosenbalm wrote:
You'd think they might commit more, seeing as how the punishment (prison) wouldn't keep them from what they love doing. Of course it would probably be hard to find decent competition in prison. Not to mention if you beat someone they will probably get all butthurt because they are volatile, irrational people to be there in the first place.
Sorry, I just had to use the word "butthurt" and "prison" in the same paragraph.
Andy Dufresne would agree.
Rosenbalm wrote:
You'd think they might commit more, seeing as how the punishment (prison) wouldn't keep them from what they love doing. Of course it would probably be hard to find decent competition in prison. Not to mention if you beat someone they will probably get all butthurt because they are volatile, irrational people to be there in the first place.
Sorry, I just had to use the word "butthurt" and "prison" in the same paragraph.
Some are volatile, irrational people. Some are simply victims of newer "tough on crime" sentencing laws designed and pushed by the private prison industry. Non-violent crimes that a couple of decades ago would have gotten you a fine and/or probation will now land you in prison for a couple of years. Odd that the U.S. prison polulation continues to climb while at the same time crime in the U.S. is decreasing.
Morphysrevenges wrote:
I think it's a crime to underpromote a pawn that reaches the eighth rank. But you know were all guilty of doing it at one time or another..........
Sometimes you need to though...like one out of a million games...
Sep 5, 2015
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#98
Darth_Algar wrote:
Rosenbalm wrote:
You'd think they might commit more, seeing as how the punishment (prison) wouldn't keep them from what they love doing. Of course it would probably be hard to find decent competition in prison. Not to mention if you beat someone they will probably get all butthurt because they are volatile, irrational people to be there in the first place.
Sorry, I just had to use the word "butthurt" and "prison" in the same paragraph.
Some are volatile, irrational people. Some are simply victims of newer "tough on crime" sentencing laws designed and pushed by the private prison industry. Non-violent crimes that a couple of decades ago would have gotten you a fine and/or probation will now land you in prison for a couple of years. Odd that the U.S. prison polulation continues to climb while at the same time crime in the U.S. is decreasing.
Commie nonsense.
PaulEChess wrote:
I'd be that on average, the men who play chess at this level are far, far less likely to have committed a violent crime than men in general.
What do you mean by men in general? If you are taking the population as a whole I woud expect the percentage of men that commit violent crime to be fairly low at the outset. You could reduce the instance of violent crime from there with many filters. Left handers or post-secondary educated will likely reduce the instance. I suspect post-grad educated red-haired left handers who play first-base at at least an A-ball level would be a very very small subset of violent offenders.
Crime is simply a function of opportunity and motive. All things being equal I doubt ELO is that significant.
Sep 6, 2015
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#100
PaulEChess wrote:
Under-The-Tide wrote:
I think you are under the impression that people over 2000 elo are impervious to committing crimes for some reason. You try to justify exceptions with other reasons... The truth is, all types of people commit crimes.
Success in life is highly correlated with the ability to defer gratification (a.k.a self control). Folks with an ELO over 2000 are highly correlated with folks who can control themselves, so I'd be that on average, the men who play chess at this level are far, far less likely to have committed a violent crime than men in general.
yes Paul you are right but imbeciles, retards and potential criminals of all kinds will never understand you and me...