Have you ever heard of a chess player rated over 2000 commit a crime of any type

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John_Warren
PaulEChess wrote:
Under-The-Tide wrote:

I think you are under the impression that people over 2000 elo are impervious to committing crimes for some reason. You try to justify exceptions with other reasons... The truth is, all types of people commit crimes.

Success in life is highly correlated with the ability to defer gratification (a.k.a self control). Folks with an ELO over 2000 are highly correlated with folks who can control themselves, so I'd be that on average, the men who play chess at this level are far, far less likely to have committed a violent crime than men in general.

yes Paul you are right but imbeciles, retards and potential criminals of all kinds will never understand you and me...Smile

imsighked2

Alexander Yuryevich "Sasha" Pichushkin (RussianАлекса́ндр Ю́рьевич Пичу́шкин, born 9 April 1974), also known as The Chessboard Killer and The Bitsa Park Maniac, is a Russian serial killer. He is believed to have killed at least 49 people, and possibly as many as 60, in southwest Moscow's Bitsa Park, where a number of the victims' bodies were found. Pichushkin being taught how to play and, after demonstrating his ability, being introduced to the exhibition games played publicly in Bitsa Park. It turned out that Pichushkin was an outstanding chess player, and in these games against generally elderly men, Pichushkin first found a channel for his aggression by dominating the chessboard in all of his games. 

imsighked2

In May 2003, Grandmaster Alex Sherzer, 31, was arrested in Mobile, Alabama for allegedly attempting to solicit sex from a 15-year-old-girl he met on the Internet and who was living at a juvenile detention center.

imsighked2

In September 2005, chess master Robert Snyder was arrested in Fort Collins, Colorado on charges of molesting three chess students of his.  Two boys were age 13 and one boy was age 12.  He later escaped and was featured on America’s Most Wanted in 2009.  He was later captured in Belize after someone recognized him from the TV show.  He was released from jail in 2008 and was supposed to register as a sex offender, but he never did.   He was featured on America’s Most Wanted in November, 2009.   A girl had recognized him as a chess teacher in her school in Belize and notified the authorities. US Marshals tracked him down in Belize and arrested him.

imsighked2

This has been covered already. Search for 

Arrested Chess Players

on Chess.com

John_Warren

i looked up that Alexander Yuryevich 

he is nothing but only a retard and maniac with no rating but only a interest in chess....far away being a over 2000 chess player...

John_Warren

there is no such topic on chess.com as "arrested chess players"

please dont lie and please talk with facts

that topic is about people arrested for playing chess not arrested chess players......

Conflagration_Planet
quantumlee wrote:

there is no such topic on chess.com as "arrested chess players"

please dont lie and please talk with facts

that topic is about people arrested for playing chess not arrested chess players......

Look up Chess players arrested for selling crack.

John_Warren

you now have changed your statement which was "arrested chess players" into "chess players arrested for selling crack"...but i couldnt find such a topic on chess.com too...

are you just messing around ?

conrad123

No. He's getting even more specific.

Conflagration_Planet

How about Crack smokers arrested for playing chess?  Smile

notmtwain
chessmicky wrote:

Also Larry D. Evans (a master not the Grandmaster Larry M. Evans) and Jeffery Kasner, another master-strength player were indicted in the 1980's in connection to a scheme to sell fake Salvador Dali prints.

Robert Snyder, a 2300+ master and well known chess author and coach has been convicted more than once of sexual molestation of a mino. He was even featured once on the TV show "America's Most Wanted."

That's too bad about "Larry D.", as he was known. I took lessons from him in the early 80's. He is an IM. I thought he was a great guy. I couldn't find anything about whether or not he was convicted (though I did a New York Times article reporting the charges in 1988.)

Irontiger
PaulEChess wrote:

Success in life is highly correlated with the ability to defer gratification (a.k.a self control). Folks with an ELO over 2000 are highly correlated with folks who can control themselves, so I'd be that on average, the men who play chess at this level are far, far less likely to have committed a violent crime than men in general.

I would bet the main causation is not from the character trait (self control -> less likely to commit crime and more likely to play good chess) but the social background (well-off -> time to kill playing chess, with a mentor more likely available, and less need to steal to eat).

KoenSchaakmans

Since chess is a popular game in prison, there must be 2000+rated players with a criminal record.

Darth_Algar
Rosenbalm wrote:
Darth_Algar wrote:
Rosenbalm wrote:

You'd think they might commit more, seeing as how the punishment (prison) wouldn't keep them from what they love doing. Of course it would probably be hard to find decent competition in prison. Not to mention if you beat someone they will probably get all butthurt because they are volatile, irrational people to be there in the first place.


Sorry, I just had to use the word "butthurt" and "prison" in the same paragraph.

Some are volatile, irrational people. Some are simply victims of newer "tough on crime" sentencing laws designed and pushed by the private prison industry. Non-violent crimes that a couple of decades ago would have gotten you a fine and/or probation will now land you in prison for a couple of years. Odd that the U.S. prison polulation continues to climb while at the same time crime in the U.S. is decreasing.

Commie nonsense.

You're not real bright are you?

Aegypter

Probably clever chess players would be able to calculate the consequences of thier acts. They would commit a crime only if they would not be caught and therefore could sound like overrated chess players don't commit crimes :D.

Seriously: don't see really any relation. Chess players are human and would act as any others.

Squishey

I usually try to calculate side variations to see if commiting a crime would lead me into a winning endgame.

Darth_Algar
MorraMeister wrote:

This is one of the dumbest threads on chess.com. I can't believe it is still getting posts............

It wasn't until you bumped it.

KoenSchaakmans

I've heard Ruy Lopez was a pedophile

Under-The-Tide
KoenSchaakmans wrote:

I've heard Ruy Lopez was a pedophile

What would you expect from a priest- he makes messi jealous of his touch