I don't think I would have dinged the guy for speaking English poorly. After all, he's a Latvian immigrant. Also, I don't think it's a breach of etiquette for him offering to do a post-mortem with you. I doubt if his intent was to offend you.
He wasn't an immigrant, like me he just came to participate in the tournament. I told him 'No, thank you' and well I did point out that he probably didn't mean it in a bad way; in fact I did so directly after the bolded part.
I don't think I would have dinged the guy for speaking English poorly. After all, he's a Latvian immigrant. Also, I don't think it's a breach of etiquette for him offering to do a post-mortem with you. I doubt if his intent was to offend you.
He wasn't an immigrant, like me he just came to participate in the tournament. I told him 'No, thank you' and well I did point out that he probably didn't mean it in a bad way; in fact I did so directly after the bolded part.
You're right, you did say that. Did you mention to the TD when you withdrew the reason for withdrawing? It might be good feedback for him.
Some years back I wrote a thread on this very topic.
I will give a summary here.
I was half way through my first game in an OTBT when my opponent made a move immediately after me returning from the toilets. It was a strong move which meant he clearly had some help while I was absent.
I confronted him and he smugly denied it all. Having established that he was both a cheat and a lair I reached across the table and yanked him forward by his shirt with my left while giving a straight right cross to the nose.
The guy must have been a bleeder because I have never seen a nose bleed like that. To his credit he fought back bravely for a while even as a 60 year old until I got hold of a queen and used it to hammer fist him in the face with the crown end.
He ended up with something like 56 stitches to his face and withdrew from the tournament. The irony is I had to withdraw as well after the incident because the blood upset some chidren and it wasn't even my blood!!
You seem so proud of your criminal assault. I worked with people jailed for similar behavior. Of course, you may just be making it up. I certainly hope so . . .
I don't think I would have dinged the guy for speaking English poorly. After all, he's a Latvian immigrant. Also, I don't think it's a breach of etiquette for him offering to do a post-mortem with you. I doubt if his intent was to offend you.
He wasn't an immigrant, like me he just came to participate in the tournament. I told him 'No, thank you' and well I did point out that he probably didn't mean it in a bad way; in fact I did so directly after the bolded part.
You're right, you did say that. Did you mention to the TD when you withdrew the reason for withdrawing? It might be good feedback for him.
Nah, I didn't explicitly say I hated literally everything about the playing hall. I guess I didn't want to come across like a whiner while they were in no position to tackle the issue anyway. What I told them was 'personal circumstances' which strictly speaking wasn't untrue, and they said 'Ah okay, well no problem and good luck'. They can't forbid someone to leave the tournament anyway, but it was still nice that they didn't make any negative remarks. I have no intention to participate in that tournament again, even though my rating is now high enough to play in their highest group (a rather international field with always several experienced GMs playing, pretty cool for an amateur player like me).
Some years back I wrote a thread on this very topic.
I will give a summary here.
I was half way through my first game in an OTBT when my opponent made a move immediately after me returning from the toilets. It was a strong move which meant he clearly had some help while I was absent.
I confronted him and he smugly denied it all. Having established that he was both a cheat and a lair I reached across the table and yanked him forward by his shirt with my left while giving a straight right cross to the nose.
The guy must have been a bleeder because I have never seen a nose bleed like that. To his credit he fought back bravely for a while even as a 60 year old until I got hold of a queen and used it to hammer fist him in the face with the crown end.
He ended up with something like 56 stitches to his face and withdrew from the tournament. The irony is I had to withdraw as well after the incident because the blood upset some chidren and it wasn't even my blood!!
What a story Mark!
Thanks Macer75, not sure what is going on but some guy here referred to this as criminal assault!!???
Doesn't say anything about my cheating opponent that was also a liar ....no sir, just calls me a criminal for defending my rights.
One of the biggest problems in the US today is the ' roll-over-and-die-lest-we-offend' attitude displayed by some here.
I am watching you impsycho2.
I beat a G.M and he resigned
Unless you're physically ill or something like this, I think it's not good to withdraw after a disappointing loss... but some people do this. They'll even withdraw after the first round. I think it's a little silly.
Doesn't happen too often in scholastic chess (which I assume the OP played). I'd say < 2% quit before the tournament is over ( < 5% for 2-day events). It is easy to check by looking at any large-ish tournament results. Kids play for fun; very few actually care about ratings. The DNF are usually the very young who can't handle losing (i.e. cry, bad behavior, etc.). (My son used to be like that too, and chess has helped him a lot in that department.)
Thanks Macer75, not sure what is going on but some guy here referred to this as criminal assault!!???
Doesn't say anything about my cheating opponent that was also a liar ....no sir, just calls me a criminal for defending my rights.
One of the biggest problems in the US today is the ' roll-over-and-die-lest-we-offend' attitude displayed by some here.
I am watching you impsycho2.
Punch someone in the face and give them stitches? Yes, I was wrong. It was not criminal assault. It was battery with great bodily harm -- if your story is true (which I doubt). You're watching me? I'm scared. Where am I right now? LOL. 
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You are a PASTOR, Dubious Duck? Wow!
You are a Clinical Mental Health Councelor I'mpsycho2!? Wow!
Posting little meme's and using your anoymity to attack people for no apparent reason, what a healthy mind.
Clearly you are just a troll looking for some attention.
though we like to think of chess as a very rational sport, at times it is very difficult, if not impossible to separate our emotions when playing in tournaments.
look at other sports.....after a few hours in battling a close tennis match, even the top, most gentlemanly fellows will curse and smash their tennis rackets when they screw up or don't like a particular call. Remember John McEnroe ?
look at other sports.....Baseball pitchers, hitters, etc. After batlling for a long time in a very tense encounter, don't expect us to be saints !
so why not chess ? most tournaments with a lot of people will have some drop out because of frustrations losing-- some point out they do not wish to lose more Rating points. and in some cases, those players feel they are in a losing streak, they can not bounce out of -- and so drop out, regardless of rating points.
when I would lose a game or two and feel frustrated, I usually stayed in the tournament, but would totally change my opening. For instance, before the last round of a tournament a bunch of years ago, the pairings were posted and my opponent was discussing with his buddy what I play. He was prepared for a Q-side opening. So instead, I played e4 and got to attack his Dragon Sicilian. I could tell he was flustered and I easily won.
yes, it does feel good to bounce someone out of a tournament by beating them -- especially if you feel you totally demoralized them 
. However, we may never know the true reason why they dropped out.
And as long as there are more rounds in a tournament, best not to gush over the fact you caused someone to drop out. wait to celebrate and relax after the tournament ( my opinion)
however, his story does go with the title. Have you literally beat someone into withdrawig from an otb tourney
I didn't mean to physically beat someone up. That's a little bit too literal. Perhaps I should have rewrote the title to say, "Have You Ever Literally Defeated Someone into Withdrawing from an OTB Tournament?"
....figuratively ?....no. Literally....no either (almost slapped someone tho'). Someone kinda did it to me tho' once.
:/
Jesus loves you and doesn't advocate violence, Dubious Duck. I hope you can learn from him.
It happened to me but it wasn't just because I lost the first (and so also the last) game in the tournament. I didn't like the playing hall - it was far from the centre of the city - with its plastic seats and tables; I was basically too tall for them and couldn't comfortably place my arms. I couldn't concentrate at all and lost with the White pieces in like 14 moves in a Scandinavian (that's quite an achievement) versus a Latvian player rated like 250 points higher than me. He then signed my scoresheet, which is common practice but this time we were given a separate result card, and asked me in awful English if I wanted to analyse the game. To be honest it's etiquette not to ask that if you just had a game like that, but oh well I guess he didn't mean any harm. I went back to my hotel room and withdrew, then spent the remaining days sightseeing the city.
No one ever withdrew directly after playing me.
I don't think I would have dinged the guy for speaking English poorly. After all, he's a Latvian immigrant. Also, I don't think it's a breach of etiquette for him offering to do a post-mortem with you. I doubt if his intent was to offend you.