LOL Andy. only you.
And Nam..didn't you say this forum was over.. . and you don't care, why are you still here. are you needing a hug or something.
no one said it was over...I merely mentioned something was already mentioned...I'm good...some what retentive, but a hug wont fix it...
Chess has helped me be all I can be - NO wait, that was the army. Chess has helped me see things that aren't there - NO wait, that was at a bar while I was in the army. Chess has helped my solve problems ( ie. how do I get out of the army). I could use that hug now, please!
I believe no politician or civic leader should be a non chess player. How many times have politicians done things and you thought to yourself, "No chess player would have fallen for that?!!"
I believe no politician or civic leader should be a non chess player. How many times have politicians done things and you thought to yourself, "No chess player would have fallen for that?!!"
I make really dopey blunders sometimes because, I lose my train of thought. I probably wouldn't do that in real life events. Those events typically take place more slowly and aren't so final. I could retract a statement, I don't play take backs in chess...
Chess has actually hurt other areas of my life. But i still play it.
Speed chess online has caused me wrist tendinitis so yeah, I guess it does affect other areas of my life
Man, sofaknee, you are dumb as dirt. No you can't make a tank go over water. You can put it on a boat or put it on a plane but a tank floating across the water is wildly ineffective. You didn't even understand basic English - "Can you make a tank go 120 mph over water" means exactly what it says - there is no "or" in that sentence.
This is why I've spent lots of my life as hired brains for the military. If we just left it to these morons, where would we be?
Your ability to understand these concepts is clearly limited by your imagination, which seems to be about as volumous as a thimble. You spent your life as hired brains for the military? That's laughable. That line might work on some, but anyone with an ounce of sense can tell that you probably can't tell your ass from your elbow when it comes to this topic. As for your little challenge, you want to have a bet to determine who knows more about the history of a battle or war? Well that notion literally has no relevance to the topice we are "debating." I assume that means you have an impressive grasp of the use of google. I'm going to guess you've done a lot of reading. Probably A LOT. That's wonderful. It's also limiting in the ability to grasp the concepts of reality. I've met arm chair historians before who think their books tell them everything they need to know. I suggest you stay where ever you are, teaching high school history or whatever, and leave the real living to those with a little imagination. I'll tell you what. If you can tell me one thing of relevance that I don't already know, or share one even moderately creative idea, I'll consider your little challenge. Though we've lost the point of this thread completely...
I'm wondering if the skills you have developed as a chess player have been useful for you in your career or your personal life. If so, please feel free to give a brief example. Thanks!
I don't know maybe I slow my self down in some situations to make the best move possible, rather than doing the first thing that comes to my mind.
read "The Art of Learning" by Josh Waitzkin he learned a lot from chess.
e.g if he is fighting Tai Chi he is thinking chess.
it definitely sharpens your brain - it has been shown that games like chess cause new neural connections in the brain; so yes, it indisputably improves your brain, and therefore your thinking
Sometimes, when I'm playing Warcraft, I will occasionally say something like,"Let's split our armies into two and attack both enemy bases simultaneously. The two bases only have enough men to defend one base, so one of them has to send reinforcements to the other, leaving it empty and easily taken. It's like a knight fork."
Most of the time, people will understand this plan, but then ask,"What's a knight fork?"
Chess has helped me with women .
When stopped talking about it , I had much more success.
it definitely sharpens your brain - it has been shown that games like chess cause new neural connections in the brain; so yes, it indisputably improves your brain, and therefore your thinking
You wouldn't happen to have a reference for that, do you?
I'm always suspicious of "it has been shown". It always sounds like those false medical claims for quack products that have been "clinically proven" or "scientifically tested", but for some reason no one can point to an actual paper documenting the real study. Anything that actually promoted real neural connections would be a fairly big deal, but I'm a bit dubious without the documentation. Everything I've read has been along the lines of showing that people who played Chess tend to do better at school, but they don't have any way of determining whether the Chess actually helped the students, or whether good students were more likely to play Chess. It's the old correlation versus causation problem.
it definitely sharpens your brain - it has been shown that games like chess cause new neural connections in the brain; so yes, it indisputably improves your brain, and therefore your thinking
You wouldn't happen to have a reference for that, do you?
I'm always suspicious of "it has been shown". It always sounds like those false medical claims for quack products that have been "clinically proven" or "scientifically tested", but for some reason no one can point to an actual paper documenting the real study. Anything that actually promoted real neural connections would be a fairly big deal, but I'm a bit dubious without the documentation. Everything I've read has been along the lines of showing that people who played Chess tend to do better at school, but they don't have any way of determining whether the Chess actually helped the students, or whether good students were more likely to play Chess. It's the old correlation versus causation problem.
I am amazed, actually, that this is news to you. There are now HUNDREDS, probably thousands or 10's of thousands of studies showing the effects of different activities, including chess, on the brain. You could start by picking up a copy of one of the books by Dr Daniel G Amen. He is a pioneer in the field- he does brain scans that show brain activity before, during, after various activities. The brain lights up during chess, and new connections are forming all the time, especially anytime you learn something. The new connections that form in your brain are not just useful in chess, but in all learning. This is common knowledge now; it's been all over the print, news, internet and other media for years.
Interestingly, Dr Amen found that ping pong is also especially good for the brain because you are forced to keep reacting quickly over and over and over, adjusting and readjusting, which is a great brain workout. Sorry I could not locate one of my books by Amen, my house is a mess- books everywhere - when I find one of his books I will try to post some quotes. Meantime, get one of his books; I think one is called Change Your Brain, Change Your Life.
I'm sure you could Google it and find some of his stuff. And he's just one of many.
it definitely sharpens your brain - it has been shown that games like chess cause new neural connections in the brain; so yes, it indisputably improves your brain, and therefore your thinking
You wouldn't happen to have a reference for that, do you?
I'm always suspicious of "it has been shown". It always sounds like those false medical claims for quack products that have been "clinically proven" or "scientifically tested", but for some reason no one can point to an actual paper documenting the real study. Anything that actually promoted real neural connections would be a fairly big deal, but I'm a bit dubious without the documentation. Everything I've read has been along the lines of showing that people who played Chess tend to do better at school, but they don't have any way of determining whether the Chess actually helped the students, or whether good students were more likely to play Chess. It's the old correlation versus causation problem.
here is one site I found by googling "effects of chess on the brain"; this shows a bunch of studies; and this is the tip of the tip of the iceberg. I too am suspicious of "it has been shown..." but this is the real deal.
http://www.quadcitychess.com/benefits_of_chess.html
it definitely sharpens your brain - it has been shown that games like chess cause new neural connections in the brain; so yes, it indisputably improves your brain, and therefore your thinking
You wouldn't happen to have a reference for that, do you?
I'm always suspicious of "it has been shown". It always sounds like those false medical claims for quack products that have been "clinically proven" or "scientifically tested", but for some reason no one can point to an actual paper documenting the real study. Anything that actually promoted real neural connections would be a fairly big deal, but I'm a bit dubious without the documentation. Everything I've read has been along the lines of showing that people who played Chess tend to do better at school, but they don't have any way of determining whether the Chess actually helped the students, or whether good students were more likely to play Chess. It's the old correlation versus causation problem.
here is one site I found by googling "effects of chess on the brain"; this shows a bunch of studies; and this is the tip of the tip of the iceberg. I too am suspicious of "it has been shown..." but this is the real deal.
Not to belabor the point, but if you look at the footnotes at the bottom of this study, you can see that the US Chess Federation has participated in many studies of this kind. It is scientifically indisputable that chess has huge positive impact on brain function; I play chess because I love it, but I also love the fact that my brain is getting a great workout. Also, I'm in my 50s, so keeping my brain sharp as I age is important to me - this is another effect of chess.
When you say 'Real Life', do you mean to say that there is a world outside of chess? Seems controversial, to say the least.
When you say 'Real Life', do you mean to say that there is a world outside of chess? Seems controversial, to say the least.
the world outside of chess consists of the supporting structure - i.e. my job, my house, my pc, and the grocery store, which provide me with the sustenance and the avenue to play chess. What we are hinting at is that all of the underlying supporting structures of Chessworld are strengthened by studying and playing chess; therefore chess is a self-sustaining and self-perpetuating universe. I would never imply that there are things that matter other than chess
it definitely sharpens your brain - it has been shown that games like chess cause new neural connections in the brain; so yes, it indisputably improves your brain, and therefore your thinking
You wouldn't happen to have a reference for that, do you?
I'm always suspicious of "it has been shown". It always sounds like those false medical claims for quack products that have been "clinically proven" or "scientifically tested", but for some reason no one can point to an actual paper documenting the real study. Anything that actually promoted real neural connections would be a fairly big deal, but I'm a bit dubious without the documentation. Everything I've read has been along the lines of showing that people who played Chess tend to do better at school, but they don't have any way of determining whether the Chess actually helped the students, or whether good students were more likely to play Chess. It's the old correlation versus causation problem.
I am amazed, actually, that this is news to you. There are now HUNDREDS, probably thousands or 10's of thousands of studies showing the effects of different activities, including chess, on the brain. You could start by picking up a copy of one of the books by Dr Daniel G Amen. He is a pioneer in the field- he does brain scans that show brain activity before, during, after various activities. The brain lights up during chess, and new connections are forming all the time, especially anytime you learn something. The new connections that form in your brain are not just useful in chess, but in all learning. This is common knowledge now; it's been all over the print, news, internet and other media for years.
Interestingly, Dr Amen found that ping pong is also especially good for the brain because you are forced to keep reacting quickly over and over and over, adjusting and readjusting, which is a great brain workout. Sorry I could not locate one of my books by Amen, my house is a mess- books everywhere - when I find one of his books I will try to post some quotes. Meantime, get one of his books; I think one is called Change Your Brain, Change Your Life.
I'm sure you could Google it and find some of his stuff. And he's just one of many.
Those studies are precisely why they recommend the elderly who live a sedentary life, to do things to sharpen their minds. Its the old adage, use it or lose it.
Yawn. Not really.