Hey kids! Learn how to resign!

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If you don't know how to finish a given position, don't resign, even if it seems hopeless.  Playing out losing positions teaches skills that aren't readily learned in even games - but which are of use in those games.  Better players might be annoyed, but the point of playing chess is to learn.  If you don't know how to finish yourself off, let your opponent show you how it's done.

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Sexual-harassment much?
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Hey, where's Dave?

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wha

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jij2018 wrote:

wha

Sheesh, the kids don't even bother posting whole words anymore.

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As a low ranked casual player I still go by the words of a book I read as a youngster by Reuben Fine that said "there's many a slip between the cup and the lip". Earn your win while I learn how you got there.  If it's OVERWHELMING material and position, I'll resign.  But don't begrudge us underlings who only want to learn by your superior play and hope for a mistake or a draw in the process : ) .

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In tournament play, I don't resign until it's borderline obnoxious. I have to be down an overwhelming amount. So don't worry about it.

Plus, the lower rated you are, the more leeway your opponents will give you.

So again, don't worry about it.

(The OP is a troll anyway)

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NubbyChessking wrote:
randomuser101 wrote:

It's pretty simple: the higher-level the match, the earlier you should be resigning. Between absolute beginners, "never resign" is fair enough advice - the losing player might be the beneficiary of a huge blunder, and the winning player gets practice in closing out wins, basic checkmate patterns etc.

Eventually you get to a level where you learn from bitter experience that there's no point in playing on a rook down with no compensation against a half-decent player. But players naturally learn that anyway after wasting enough time defending lost causes, and they start resigning.

Ehh. I'm on the higher end of my chess club and the dude blundered a R+K ending and we drew by agreement. I was down on time by like 5 minutes to so it's 50/50 for me

The club can't be very good if a beginner is on the higher end.

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Hey teacher! Leave those kids alone! 

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Here is an example why you should not resign.

I have only the king left.

Opponent has queen, bishop, 3 pawns and king. Opponent manages to create stalemate... If you want to win - then checkmate me. And learn to avoid stalemate. I wont give away ranking points just beacuse you are up material.

 

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I don't object to a kid who won't resign, but I was irritated when I was asked for a draw when I had K+R+B vs. K, and was a few moves away from mating him.

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>but I was irritated when I was asked for a draw <

Yes, that's another habit that seems very frequent, which tells me that just like "never resigning," it's being coached.  I suppose the thread title should be more directed at the coaches who are telling the kids these things:

Hey Coaches! Teach your players when to resign and to not make insulting draw offers!

TMB

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Never resign to a player rated below 1800.

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The reason coaches don’t want kids to resign is they want them to get the experience of seeing the whole game through. For the same reason, they don’t coach kids to ask for draws. Kids pick up that one on their own. 

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llamonade2 wrote:
jij2018 wrote:

wha

Sheesh, the kids don't even bother posting whole words anymore.

But I'm (technically) a kid, or at least a minor, and I'm posting whole words surprise.png

My coaches actually did teach us to resign, although that was an in-school club. If you know you can't get out of the sticky situation for sure then resign, I guess. I did mostly learn to offer draws on my own though.

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You can ignore people constantly offering draws.  Sure it's harder over the board, but you just make your moves when it's your time and ignore them when it's their time and they'll run out of time if they just wait for you to respond to their petty draw offer.

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The message you're trying to give is somewhat valid, don't be a poor sport if you're down 25 points, but you need to calm down. Kids don't have to resign if they don't want to, even if it's annoying. Your opponent isn't coming to play chess to do you a favor. Also, once you pass 500, nobody asks for draws anymore, okay? If they ask for a draw, they're a huge noob, so there's no reason to be annoyed. Back when I was a weaker player, I offered draws all the time. I started to realize how annoying that was later on. Kids learn about draws later in their chess career. The one thing that's really annoying, however, is when opponents sit there and don't move. At least in your situation they try their hardest to defend, and you have to admire that. If you don't have patience, you will struggle in your chess career. Even if they sit there and don't move, you should be patient. What they're trying to do is annoy you, and in your scenario their strategy seems to be working very well. 

So calm down and develop some patience. Remember, you opponent came to a chess tournament to play chess as well.

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ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

And most important of all:  you're winning!  So quit gripin' about it.