Hijab forced on female chess players WCC
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She looks rather motherly!
robbie_1969 escribió:
She looks rather motherly!
Yeah, sure!
This one looks way scarier.
KFassbender escribió:
Talk about respecting women.
Yeah, you don't have to suffer her. I would be very glad of living on a civilized country instead of Españistan.
So making fun of a person is disrespectful to all of them?
yes our Swenska friends position is not logically consistent for stating that someone looks motherly or scary is not disrespectful, it may simply be a statement of fact. One can also mock someone and have respect for them too in some other capacity.
KFassbender escribió:
Pulpofeira wrote:
So making fun of a person is disrespectful to all of them?
Good point. A case of synecdoche I suppose. I found it ironical that the person who posted the picture was angry about the mistreatment of women elsewhere.
Why? What would have been your reaction if I post funny pics of a man? There are plenty of them on the net, both genders, our politicians aren't good for anything else. What's the difference? There's something obscure in your logic.
Oct 4, 2016
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At risk of discussing the actual topic, I do not see a big deal with hijab. Frankly, the issue smacks of Islamophobia to me and I do not believe the discussion would even come up if it were associated with some other reason. Many people who travel find that being adaptable to whatever culture you are in is a very important skill and rather rewarding as well. As for the argument that a hijab is oppressive to women, I can only say that I am not so fragile that a piece of cloth will oppress me. I've lived in other countries where traditional attire is considered symbolic of oppression of women, but somehow I wore the local attire and survived. I am confident that these chess players will too. In fact, many of them already have.
Now there are plenty of other good reasons to object to Iran as a playing venue. Nazi Paikidze originally pointed to the State Department travel warnings about Iran. That's a good reason to object. Hijab really is a minor distraction at most.
Plenty of interesting "on topic" comments here: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/female-chess-players-forced-to-wear-hijab
Unfortunately, once again, all you can do is watch.
As I've stated a couple of times, to me things are way simpler. The possibility of being arrested for not wearing a certain piece of clothing is plain wrong, whatever the reason. I wouldn't swallow it.
Oct 4, 2016
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DamselinDischess wrote:
At risk of discussing the actual topic, I do not see a big deal with hijab. Frankly, the issue smacks of Islamophobia to me and I do not believe the discussion would even come up if it were associated with some other reason. Many people who travel find that being adaptable to whatever culture you are in is a very important skill and rather rewarding as well. As for the argument that a hijab is oppressive to women, I can only say that I am not so fragile that a piece of cloth will oppress me. I've lived in other countries where traditional attire is considered symbolic of oppression of women, but somehow I wore the local attire and survived. I am confident that these chess players will too. In fact, many of them already have.
Now there are plenty of other good reasons to object to Iran as a playing venue. Nazi Paikidze originally pointed to the State Department travel warnings about Iran. That's a good reason to object. Hijab really is a minor distraction at most.
Islamophobia to object to being forced to wear islamic religious symbols at a women's world champion chess tournament? Seems a strange position. I'd similarly object if everyone was forced to wear a christian cross to take part in the olympics, or if you had to wear traditional jewish clothing to attend a g20 summit. Everyone should be free to practice or choose their own religion without being punished for that, especially at international events with people from many cultures attending.
I don't think anyone would object to playing in Iran by itself, top chess players have played their numerous times without being seized or detained. The chess is more important than the location. The rules of the tournament though have a direct effect on the players and the chess.
A dress code has nothing to do with the "outrage" being shown. Any sensible person can see it for what it is: armchair wannabe activists who want to be noticed. Tgey want to be seen as politically correct, morally just. The hypocrisy is equally visable, where are they, where were they when other events are played world wide in places with far greater injustices?
Not wearing a scarf and get stoned to death?
These are fanatical racists, imo.