Hikaru cheating allegations is the last thing his peers need

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MaetsNori

Hm. Maybe those 3+1 games are from their Titled Tuesday appearances?

I also find it interesting how sparingly Carlsen seems to play (compared to others). For a guy who has mentioned in interviews that he thinks about chess constantly, he doesn't seem to play it as obsessively as the rest.

SoupSailor
IronSteam1 wrote:

Hm. Maybe those 3+1 games are from their Titled Tuesday appearances?

Probably. The only other times I remember them playing 3+1 are tournaments, and when playing Kramnik.

rgouh

I just don't understand why Kramnik is telling everyone about Hikaru cheating but not backing it up, while claiming that the evidence will come. If he has anything, he should show it. Otherwise, it will continue to just look worse and worse for him as he gives empty promises. The Kramnik hate is just building; at the time of this comment he has 158 downvotes on his blog, and he's not making it easier on himself.

David

Most likely Kramnik is trying to get a mathematician to state publicly on the record and in a court of law that the statistics indicate that Hikaru is cheating and is having trouble finding one, because whenever they actually look at the stats they don’t agree that Hikaru is cheating

Six_Pack_Of_Flabs

Plot twist: this is all just a publicity scheme cooked up by Danny Rensch

Bogopawn657

It's ridiculous to accuse Hikaru of cheating at rapid, this guy was playing rapid before chess.com even existed and beating everyone in sight, he does not need use any assistance and the former world champion who started all these accusations is just someone who is bored after retirement and wants some limelight, since he has stated he does not intend playing on chess.coms site anymore isn't it about time his outcries where dispensed with permanently!!?

RopemakerStreet
llama_l wrote:
RopemakerStreet wrote:

You joined in August, 2300 blitz, not that many games, what gives?

I'm just a fast improver I guess? Beginner to 2300 in 3 months is pretty normal right?

I'm flattered that my rating is so high you think I should have to play every week otherwise it doesn't count... anyway, long-time people know me. Sometimes a new member or unobservant person questions me... the questions are not very interesting. On this account I played 100 rated games against random opponents, no rematches... there's really not much else to say.

Who said that exactly apart from nobody?. Wondered how one could reach so high in a short space of time, that was all, you're on a par with hundreds and hundreds of titled players. I assume your previous incarnation was closed for some reason, you do go to much greater lengths to prove a person is not cheating such as Hikaru with all this historic data, you also a few weeks ago were adamant someone wasn't cheating against me, I mean, you're the only person that believes someone would not take one of two hanging pieces of mine, and instead make a rook move nobody at 1500 blitz would find - and take over 1 minute 8 seconds to make it, then not needing to make any more engine moves knowing how good the eval bar was for them. That's what clever cheats do, don't cheat throughout the game.

PromisingPawns

#110 I think he doesn't understand that the difference between self closed account and banned account. Very bold ( and stupid) of him to assume that you cheated your way to 2300.

RopemakerStreet

wow a reply in minutes and then the calvary arrives soon after, amazing. Where did I say he was cheating numbnuts? twice misquoted, did not say you cheated, did not say you have to play every week, do you want to make it a hat trick ? In fact I even used the words 'closed for some reason', not banned, closed. Though it is quite something how defensive you are for no apparent reason. Is Satan Llama a good friend of yours btw ?

Elroch
AkashForGM wrote:
Kramnik has no right to accuse people when he him self cheated in a wcc match

This is the irony of it. Kramnik was on the receiving end of one of the highest profile false accusations of cheating himself, and should understand that someone being top of the heap does not imply they are a cheater. I don't get the impression that Kramnik has especially good insight into cheat detection - fair enough, he is 100% a chess player, and one who has been around a long while now - but throwing insinuations against those who are the top doesn't make him look any better than Topalov in 2006. I feel it is having been absolutely top of the heap that makes Kramnik have a little difficulty accepting that he is 250 points below Hikaru at blitz. But he is 330 points below Magnus!

MaetsNori
RopemakerStreet wrote:

... Wondered how one could reach so high in a short space of time, that was all, you're on a par with hundreds and hundreds of titled players. I assume your previous incarnation was closed for some reason, ...

Llama has been playing online for many years.

He seems to close his account and make a new one whenever he feels like having a fresh start.

I can understand this as I have done the same, countless times, over the years. Sometimes an account just starts to feel stale, and/or you desire a change.

Bogopawn657

I think that Kramnik is full of worn out bubble gum which is what he is blowing, the guy says he won't play on here anymore, and yet chess.com allow him to falsely accuse members based on his own opinions, KRAMNIK IS A BORED RETIRED G.M. WHO CANNOT GET ANY RECOGNITION, OUT OF THE LIMELIGHT THINK HE NEEDS TO LEAVE SUCH ACCUSING TO CHESS.COM AND STAY OUT OF IT, THINK HE BIT SAD REALLY!!?

MaetsNori

I think Kramnik strongly believes that he's correct.

I believe he's completely wrong, of course, (as does most of the chess community) but I don't think he's doing it for attention. He finds Hikaru's dominance so exceptional that (to him) it can't possibly be unassisted.

Though I find this viewpoint pretty bizarre, as he's played Hikaru OTB many times. And OTB Hikaru plays very much the same ...

ericthatwho

I wonder what he puts on his cereal besides what the bulls drop.

GM CRYbaby

SavageOppress
IronSteam1 wrote:

I think Kramnik strongly believe that he's correct.

I believe he's completely wrong, of course, (as does most of the chess community) but I don't think he's doing it for attention. He finds Hikaru's dominance so exceptional that (to him) it can't possibly be unassisted.

Though I find this viewpoint pretty bizarre, as he's played Hikaru OTB many times. And OTB Hikaru plays very much the same ...

I agree with basically all of this.

RopemakerStreet

you have been spoken to very normally, you were asked a normal question, and all you had to do was answer normally, but instead you reacted badly, defensively and strangely whilst trying to insert meanings and fictitious quotes into my posts, very odd.

Also don't get ironsteams answer if true, that's equally odd, constantly closing down accounts and starting new one's, almost like someone's after you.

Elroch
David wrote:
Most likely Kramnik is trying to get a mathematician to state publicly on the record and in a court of law that the statistics indicate that Hikaru is cheating and is having trouble finding one, because whenever the actually look at the stats they don’t agree that Hikaru is cheating

I'd have told him that for free. Bargain service.

RopemakerStreet

Only one ranting is you, throwing your toys out of the pram and carrying on like a wailing banshee. One sensitive little flower. You have twice tried to misquote me, which means you either can't read or are obtuse, your third post reference, post 112, was not even directed at you, it was to poster at 111, who torpedoed himself into the dialogue and said I assumed you had been cheating, if you had bothered to read that you wouldn't have misunderstood again. The theatrical responses on here are very peculiar. Regards.

ouidorivera8

I believe Kramnik may not have watched GM Hikaru's stream. Almost all of Hikaru's games featured opponents whose skill level was 200 points or more below his, leading to predictable outcomes. Achieving victories against such opponents is something individuals of their caliber can easily accomplish, as winning over 50 games against opponents significantly weaker is within reach. Hikaru openly acknowledged that he selectively chose his opponents, dispelling any notions of cheating. It's disheartening to witness Kramnik's behavior, seemingly uninformed and presenting himself as knowledgeable.

I feel sorry for Kramnik; he's behaving foolishly while trying to appear intelligent. I recall Topalov accusing him of cheating, and though I initially brushed it off, Kramnik's recent accusations against Hikaru make me reconsider. Perhaps there's some truth to Topalov's claims, as thinkers often engage in actions and can be quite paranoid.

DreamscapeHorizons

The Ian response to the drama (the hero Gotham needs, etc) was simply Ian saying Vlad is right to point out cheating, it's quite deserved in some cases, but Ian thinks Vlad is bringing up cheating where it's not needed in this situation. I think Ian was sticking up for Naka in a joking way telling Vlad he's seeing too much cheating everywhere.

That's how I understood his jokingly delivered response. Playfully snarky maybe.