Horse or bishop?

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fieldsofforce
IlMave wrote:

What is better: horse or bishop?

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Just google your question.  Also google THE MINOR EXCHANGE.

gingerninja2003

IlMave. i ask you to show me a fork which a. doesn't require the opponent to be blind and b. isn't a 2 or more move sacrifice because someone at your level won't see that however higher rated players would. 

bbeltkyle89
IlMave wrote:

well, i guess I'm not a good enough player to be good in this discussion

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IlMave

Well, I am sorry, gingerninja. i am not good in chess nor am I good with chess diagrams. But you're right people at higher levels see a fork coming

IlMave

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IlMave

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MikeCrockett
IlMave wrote:

What is better: horse or bishop?

Depends on what you prefer more.. being bored by Sunday School or the Whinny's from a stable.  

Pulpofeira

I remember Kasparov saying something like bishops were 3.185 and knights 3.170 or some similar crazy stuff.

SAGM001

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IlMave

None's sure what's better. Only one person gave a straight answer.

I expected this

Pulpofeira

Maybe because there's not one for that question.

Pashak1989

whores are better

LM_player
Well let's see... Bishops are colorblind, Knights are slow, Bishops are allergic to pomegranates, Knights like to eat apples, Bishops hate the smell of lemons, Knights are prone to seizures, And bishops like potatoes. According to my calculations a Knight is slightly better.
LM_player
I think I've answered this question before :P
Stephen_Stanfield

Bishop. I couldn't take care of a horse. tongue.png

MickinMD

Larry Kaufman's celebrated study of 80,000,000 chess positions determined that ON AVERAGE the Bishop and Knight/Horse are worth 3.25 Pawns each.

An old rule-of-thumb says a Knight on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rank is inferior to a Bishop, a Knight on the 4th rank is as good as a Bishop, a Knight on the 5th rank is better than a Bishop, and a Knight on the 6th rank is usually devastating.

Generally, open positions favor Bishops, closed positions favor Knights.  Check out this endgame from one of my recent games: my opponent can't figure out where to put the White Bishop. Watch as he moves him from one useless dark square to another because all my Pawns are on the white squares - my Knight can attack both color squares. Jump ahead to move 36 for the N + P's vs B + P's endgame:

 

m7mdKSA
I play English opening so bishop is more important than knight but in some situations knight are even more powerful than bishop and rock together
Its more easy to knight to gain control over the board
stassneyking

Come on guys, it depends on the position. Bishops are generally better in open positions especially when there are pawn majorities on opposite sides of the board, and knights are generally better in closed positions and when they have strong outposts. You just have to ask yourself which piece will be more effective in the position.

stassneyking

I highly recommend you disregard the point value of the two.

PawnosaurusRex

Each has its merits. The knight can apply a check when other pieces are blocked. Bishops can zip all the way from one corner to the other. When there are lots of pawns, the knight may have an advantage: the bishop works well when there are long lines it can use when there are fewer pawns. Bishops are thought to be "worth" more because they become more useful as the game progresses and open attacking chances are presented. A bishop can control only one colour of square, a knight can attack both colours (but not at same time). Two bishops in an endgame can be devastating; two knights, not so much, but a bishop and knight are better.