Leftehnuhnt-Lmao wrote:
understanding the others point view is very hard for those who are defending their ego.
Yet, you called the one who does that the most, the GOAT.
How do I defend the arguement that chess is a sport?
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Mar 8, 2025
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#1343
Optimissed wrote:
Leftehnuhnt-Lmao wrote:
Optimissed is probably the GOAT of debate.
don’t try to beat him in an argument, he has slain everyone!
It's true. The problem is that it's often so quick, they don't know they're dead.
So the dead keep on arguing and then tell everyone how they won.
Case in point.
Mar 8, 2025
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#1344
Leftehnuhnt-Lmao wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Leftehnuhnt-Lmao wrote:
understanding the others point view is very hard for those who are defending their ego.
Yet, you called the one who does that the most, the GOAT.
bad day huh ?
Not for me. Your perception of things, however, suggests many bad days.
Mar 8, 2025
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#1345
Leftehnuhnt-Lmao wrote:
try to be nice to people.
wishing bad on others is inappropriate.
No hostile wish expressed. Compassion for the delusions that afflict you. Wishing you well.
Mar 8, 2025
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#1346
Leftehnuhnt-Lmao wrote:
please don’t quote any more of my posts.
i am not interested in talking to you.
Then it’s best that you avoid threads where I’ve been active.
Welcome back, BTW.
Ziryab wrote:
Leftehnuhnt-Lmao wrote:
please don’t quote any more of my posts.
i am not interested in talking to you.
Then it’s best that you avoid threads where I’ve been active.
Welcome back, BTW.
I was thinking about you the other day. A friend of mine was telling me about the southwest nationals. Apparently it's a shooting event in Arizona. She didn't do nearly as well as she had hoped. 600 to 1,000 yards with 40 mph winds. It seems like the high winds would affect everyone equally, but I guess the time of day makes a big difference. At any rate it made me think of the skill needed to do something like that. I simply do not have anything close to that kind of skill.
Mar 10, 2025
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#1349
It occurs to me that acceptance of the term "e-sports" is a step towards semantics that accept games like chess as sports.
But an earlier and better example is the Mind Sports Olympiad, which included chess and many other "sports of the mind".
Elroch wrote:
It occurs to me that acceptance of the term "e-sports" is a step towards semantics that accept games like chess as sports.
But an earlier and better example is the Mind Sports Olympiad, which included chess and many other "sports of the mind".
A more accurate, and less misleading, name would be "e-games". Since not all games are electronic. The term e-sports seems a bit like an oxymoron since no sports are involved. I think some people just want to have it both ways.
It reminds me of the term "married bachelor". Some will argue that's not possible, but when asked which one he is, married or a bachelor, his response was "yes".
Elroch wrote:
It occurs to me that acceptance of the term "e-sports" is a step towards semantics that accept games like chess as sports.
But an earlier and better example is the Mind Sports Olympiad, which included chess and many other "sports of the mind".
It's a promotion. That means a person or group of people whose interest lies in selling an item or an idea.
Mar 10, 2025
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#1352
long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
you believe a sport must be martial to be a sport.
You actually say this one correctly, basically.
That is why
golf
bowing
are not sports. They are not martial training.
Golf and bowling are sports by today's standards. Your definition doesn't encapsulate the standards held today to be considered a sport.
Mar 10, 2025
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#1353
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
Golf and bowling are sports by today's standards. Your definition doesn't encapsulate the standards held today to be considered a sport.
Story time.
I play tennis with guys I meet in my new place of residence. A couple of Korean guys. Although their language is 60% Chinese, like Vietnamese, a guy said they are not Chinese. He said they are descendant from Mongolians. I believe him. They are all brawny.
I beat him in tennis, of course, I weigh about 110 lbs. The average Amerifan woman weighs 170 lbs. You do the math. I beat him in tennis because tennis is so chess like.
He said, 'You don't use your strength to win." verbatim.
Of course I don't, Both my grandfathers were Chinese. That's how the Chinese fight, Wile E Coyote, not Road Runner. I'm Chinese descendant, he's not.
He has a home gymn in his basement.
He bikes to the tennis court.
He swims,
He plays tennis.
He plays golf.
Gold is expensive, Tennis is free.
He said gold is not really exercise, like tennis is. It's just a game, like pool is game.
Then at that point chess isn't a sport either, as chess isn't really exercise either.
long_quach wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Notice the order of words, stupid.
I said, "Horse racing is synonymous with gambling." Not the other way around.
Stupid.
I am predictable. . . . you believe gambling is horse racing,
That's you saying it the other way around, again, stupid.
I do love @lfPatriotGames. Always have. She knows that and is embarrassed by it. 
I think she's clever.
Mar 10, 2025
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#1355
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
I beat him in tennis because tennis is so chess like.
He said, 'You don't use your strength to win." verbatim.
Then at that point chess isn't a sport either, as chess isn't really exercise either.
It proves my point that chess is a sport.
And golf is not a sport.
In tennis, you are physically running around and moving. And you can't play the game if one or all of the parts are taken away (e.g. net, rackets, ball).
In chess, you aren't really moving at all. At most you're moving your arms and thinking of your next move after your opponent moves. If you take away all the physical components (board, pieces, etc), you can still play the game. It's still chess. Pawn to e4, Pawn to e5, Knight to f3, through visualizing.
Mar 10, 2025
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#1356
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
I beat him in tennis because tennis is so chess like.
He said, 'You don't use your strength to win." verbatim.
Then at that point chess isn't a sport either, as chess isn't really exercise either.
It proves my point that chess is a sport.
And golf is not a sport.
In tennis, you are physically running around and moving.
I beat him.
I weight about 110 lbs. He weighs at least 200 lbs.
I run slower than him.
Hit the ball weaker than him.
I win because I am smarter than him.
I am physically inferior by metric sports That means measurement.
I bench press 20 lbs, shoulder press 20 lbs, row 20 lbs, dead lift 20 lbs, squat 20lbs, the lowest bar in Planet Fitness, you get the idea.
I have only 1 lung.
I beat him in tennis with superior intelligence.
Intelligence and some physical effort.
To pull off strategies you actually have to, y'know, move around?
Mar 10, 2025
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#1357
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
I beat him in tennis because tennis is so chess like.
He said, 'You don't use your strength to win." verbatim.
Then at that point chess isn't a sport either, as chess isn't really exercise either.
It proves my point that chess is a sport.
And golf is not a sport.
In tennis, you are physically running around and moving.
I beat him.
I weight about 110 lbs. He weighs at least 200 lbs.
I run slower than him.
Hit the ball weaker than him.
I win because I am smarter than him.
I am physically inferior by metric sports That means measurement.
I bench press 20 lbs, shoulder press 20 lbs, row 20 lbs, dead lift 20 lbs, squat 20lbs, the lowest bar in Planet Fitness, you get the idea.
I have only 1 lung.
I beat him in tennis with superior intelligence.
Intelligence and some physical effort.
To pull off strategies you actually have to, y'know, move around?
I move less than him.
I hit the ball softer and slower than him.
I win doing physically less, he lost doing physically more.
Still did things physically. Chess doesn't require physicality.
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
I beat him in tennis because tennis is so chess like.
He said, 'You don't use your strength to win." verbatim.
Then at that point chess isn't a sport either, as chess isn't really exercise either.
It proves my point that chess is a sport.
And golf is not a sport.
In tennis, you are physically running around and moving.
I beat him.
I weight about 110 lbs. He weighs at least 200 lbs.
I run slower than him.
Hit the ball weaker than him.
I win because I am smarter than him.
I am physically inferior by metric sports That means measurement.
I bench press 20 lbs, shoulder press 20 lbs, row 20 lbs, dead lift 20 lbs, squat 20lbs, the lowest bar in Planet Fitness, you get the idea.
I have only 1 lung.
I beat him in tennis with superior intelligence.
Intelligence and some physical effort.
To pull off strategies you actually have to, y'know, move around?
I move less than him.
I hit the ball softer and slower than him.
I win doing physically less, he lost doing physically more.
But back in the 1970s, if you could time travel, I would definitely have beaten you, partly by doing physically more.
Mar 10, 2025
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#1359
Optimissed wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
long_quach wrote:
StandStarter wrote:
I beat him in tennis because tennis is so chess like.
He said, 'You don't use your strength to win." verbatim.
Then at that point chess isn't a sport either, as chess isn't really exercise either.
It proves my point that chess is a sport.
And golf is not a sport.
In tennis, you are physically running around and moving.
I beat him.
I weight about 110 lbs. He weighs at least 200 lbs.
I run slower than him.
Hit the ball weaker than him.
I win because I am smarter than him.
I am physically inferior by metric sports That means measurement.
I bench press 20 lbs, shoulder press 20 lbs, row 20 lbs, dead lift 20 lbs, squat 20lbs, the lowest bar in Planet Fitness, you get the idea.
I have only 1 lung.
I beat him in tennis with superior intelligence.
Intelligence and some physical effort.
To pull off strategies you actually have to, y'know, move around?
I move less than him.
I hit the ball softer and slower than him.
I win doing physically less, he lost doing physically more.
But back in the 1970s, I would probably have beaten you at tennis, partly by doing physically more.
If you're faster and stronger at a marginal extent, your chances of winning increase. 5:5 at equal strength/speed, 6:4 if you are faster and stronger, etc. there is no 10:0 unless you have 0 knowledge or skill of the sport itself. Physical fitness is a large portion of it, though. He had 1:9 odds and won because he was able to overcome his opponent through strategy, which largely requires a physical attribute to dish out, especially in tennis.
long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:
I win doing physically less, he lost doing physically more.
He said so himself, "You don't rely on your strength to win."
Again, because tennis is so chess like.
cross court is bishops, down the line is rooks, going in up to the for volley is pawn center (somebody told me that), but vulnerable to lobs (cannons in Chinese chess, the center pawn is Cannon fodder).
The King (yourselves) is usually in the center of the board (in Chinese chess0.
You make a move, I make move.
It is so chess like.
That's how I beat him in tennis, with chess.
There's a saying if American football.
A good Aermican football coach can beat you with his team. He can also beat you if you switch teams teams. Meaning you can have his team, he'll have your team and he would still beat you.
Meaning, all things equal, it is the General that wins the game, that is what chess is, the General wins, the teams are equal.
I was an extremely successful chess team captain, in the 1990s. Same applies.
long_quach gets the Oscar for an outstanding performance in this sitcom.
Even though he hasn't made any good arguments, I suppose he must get the award.
Gets the award for the most talking (including to himself) in the forum!
you get honorable mention for that one as well!
dropped this forum a while ago, barely speak in it now except a couple of chiming in now and then.