How do you pronounce 'fianchetto'?

  • #1

    I've heard it both ways:  with the 'ch' being soft like 'ch'eese or hard like 'ch'ianti???

     

    Who knows the correct?  Or are they both?

  • #2

    Fee anne ch ch ch che toe

    :)

  • #3

    It is an Italian word meaning "little flanking" and is pronounced in Italian as:

    Fee-ahn-KEH-toh with the accent on the 3rd syllable.

  • #4

    Using the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) we got  [fjan´ keto]. I think it's a better definition than just say how it's supposed to sound in English.

    Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

  • #5
    drmellie wrote:

    I've heard it both ways:  with the 'ch' being soft like 'ch'eese or hard like 'ch'ianti???

     

    Who knows the correct?  Or are they both?


    As noted above fianchetto is a loan word from Italian.  The letter h in Italian is a hard sign, meaning that the letter in front of it changes to its hard form. In this case the c changes from the ch sound (like in ciao) to a k.  So the word is pronounced:

    fee ahn ket toh

    But unfortunately nearly 100% of none Italian speaking chess players pronounce the word with the ch sound.  I've given up politely pointing  out the correct pronunciation it just isn't worth the effort.....

  • #6
    Anothernewjack wrote:

    Fee ann che toe


  • #7

    it rhymes with

    beyond ghetto

  • #8
    muzza2 wrote:

    apparently it's FEE-AN-ket-TOE according to www.pronouncenames.com


    Silman says the same thing.  The ch is K.

  • #9

    you say tortila,

    and i say tortilla,

    you say vanilla,

    and I say vaneeya

  • #10

    I pronounce it "awesome".

  • #11

    I always heard both were correct, and Dictionary.com agrees.

  • #12

    I pronounce it "flank"

  • #13
    ichabod801 wrote:

    I pronounce it "flank"


    lol

  • #14

    It's pronounced fee-on-ket-toe

  • #15
    ichabod801 wrote:

    I pronounce it "flank"


    I always thought it was pronounced "bishop to g7".

  • #16

    Haha, hey Fromper!  I know ya from Chessforums.org, I believe!  :)

     

    *waves!

  • #17
    bugoobiga wrote:

    you say tortila,

    and i say tortilla,

    you say vanilla,

    and I say vaneeya


     i say custard

    simon says patio

  • #18

    The problem is that many of us have been saying Fee An Cheato for years :-)

    Another one is the Pirc. Apparently pronounced "purse" not "perk"

    The thing is there may be be a "correct" pronunciation, but when by common custom an incorrect pronuniciation is widely used it could cause more problems than to use the correct one ! :-)

    When I first started chess I used to think the Sicilian was the "Silicon" Defence

  • #19

    I always thought it was pronounced "bishop to g7".

    Actually, B-N2 covers all four possibilities. (Descriptive notation has some advantages!)

    How do you pronounce 'fianchetto'?

    Incorrectly, and I don't care.

    I accept the 'K' sound as correct in the original Italian. I claim the 'ch' sound is correct for the American English. Heck, English gets a lot of words from other languages, why not appropriate this one and pronounce it the way we want?

  • #20

    fianchetto = Fee-an-ketto

    Chianti = Kee-aunty

    bruschetta = Brus-ketta

    (Being right is more important than being popular. Wink )

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