how good is Emory Tate

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He's good, but he's inconsistent as a player. He really suffers when it comes to converting advantages though.

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Having played Emory several times, I have a very high opinion of his skill level.  He is a naturally talented player, and I found him to be quite strong in complicated endgames as well.  

However... it is not really reasonable to compare him with somebody Kasparov's strength.  Kasparov was trained by the best trainers and played the strongest competition since he was a young boy. I imagine he has  more wins vs World Champions than Emory has vs GM's.  I know in the past he beat a couple of entire Olympic teams in simuls - teams that had 4 or 5 players Emory's level on them.

Having said that... in one game, anything could happen.

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I heard fear of Tate is what drove Kaspy to retire. Cool

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waffllemaster wrote:

Chess isn't a game of styles like it was 100 years ago.  Top class professional players are... well they're professional.  They've taken time to gain proficiency in every aspect of the game.  If you want a crazy tactical battle, that's fine.  If you want a quiet positional game, that's ok too.  Technical endgame?  Theoretical opening?  It doesn't matter, they've studied it and tested their knowledge against some of the best players in the world.  They have weaknesses and uncertainties, sure, but they've studied it all.  If you're going to throw them off with a certain style you at least need to be in striking distance.  An IM vs a top 10 player is simply out of his league.

But all this talk of style is assuming Kasparov is weak in a tactical battle... but in truth it's the opposite, this is where Kasparov is at home.  Kasparov is much more an attacking genius than Tate.  Kasparov's preparation was only useful against players good enough for it to matter.  Plus, if avoiding Kasparov's preparation to get a good game was as easy as playing an odd move quickly then he woudln't have dominated chess for ~20 years.

i slightly disagree, just to get some free lessons. I mean how much is the mindset too, yeah more often you lose. But i also believe Nakamura for examples lost some games to Magnus just because he wasnt in the right set of mind. I mean simple looking positions and yes my awareness can still be incorrect. Also IM is not IM, there is a wide difference in IM strength and many who also have GM norms or have at least beaten many GMs.

Also i would believe the mindset can at least at the very minimum make a difference of about 100 rating points but i believe it could be way more.

Well thats my personal believe but i could be very wrong.

I dont know about Kasparov too much but my personal guess is, if he had a weak point its positional play.

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Grandmaster Sam Shankland played IM Tate. 

Here is his self-annotated game between the two:

http://www.uschess.org/content/view/11261/632

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Why dont we ask Emory what he would think the outcome would be. I would like to think I have a chance to win least one game but F%**^King Kasparov would crush. Might be what he would start.

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[Removed: Offensive] ~W

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so kaspaov would win the majority agains tate in 10 games

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"I would say it's more like one in a million."   "So you think there's a chance?" He was so funny in that movie. That was actually his wife in real life.

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This settles it. Go to fide.com. He's ranked 7,435th in the world. That means there are 7,434 players BETTER than he is in the world. SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIFTH. He's ranked 307th in the United States. That means there are 306 players just in the united states BETTER than he is. Do the math.

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At playing chess Kasparov would dominate Tate.

 

But at drinking vodka?  Now you're in Tate's wheelhouse!

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Emory Tate has a lot of U.S. military fanboys because he dominated the U.S. Armed Forces tourneys for years...that's about the extent of it.  They give him more credit than he is actually due.  Not that he isn't good, but comparing him to Kasparov is much like the silly Josh Waitzkin vs. Bobby Fischer thread...it's no contest.

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Sammour-Hasbun vs emory tate would be very good both are known for upsetting GMs

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I think he would win zero, magnus or kasparov would Dominate like no tomorrow

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does tate have a better understanding of chess then magnus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyh2K9xCXlU

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superking500 wrote:

does tate have a better understanding of chess then magnus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyh2K9xCXlU

of course he does. i read it on a chess.com forum.

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He may be able to beat Kasparov. But there's no way he coud take the Backyard Professor.

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if tate played it safe could he beat magnus

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Do you compare everyone and everything to Magnus?

And No, he couldn't

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Emory is a character...his style of play is leave him with very erratic performances.  he can be incredibly gifted, and then lose to a 1900-2000 player.