How Good Is Gothamchess?? - Chess Forums - Page 72

llama36

Jul 11, 2022

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#1421

foxbits wrote:

Jalex13 wrote:

foxbits he literally just told the truth though.

Most people enjoy valueless things. Maybe one day you will comprehend.

Lets examine that then shall we?

1 - "Popular things always lack intellectual value."

This is sometimes true and other times it's not true. So this statement is 100% false as it's not always the case.

2 - "Recreation is fun by nature. People don't watch Levy because he challenges them intellectually. Most people use up that energy to maintain their work and social lives. In their down time they want something easy and dumb... like Levy."

This borders on being correct, however I rock climb and do endurance cycling as a form of recreation and for a healthy lifestyle. While it's fun, it most certainly is not easy. Also saying "and dumb.. like Levy" instead of specifying his content is just what a friendless a-hole would do.

3 - ""This is crap which explains why so many people like it" is true for all sorts of things in life. You're probably too young to know that yet.""

This one is true, as it does apply to all sorts of things in life. However it doesn't apply to a lot of things too.

These chess forums are a nightmare, I haven't seen so much wankery in a long time. Even reddit is better and that place is a cesspit. Good luck with eachother y'all.

Sure, people put energy into their hobbies. For you it might be rock climbing. For others it's chess, and those people do things like read books and go to tournaments.

Like I said, after work, social, (and we can include hobbies), people don't have the mental or physical energy for much else. It's one reason politics is such a joke i.e. 99.99~% of people don't care as long as their day to day life isn't screwed up.

Anyway, I watch garbage on YouTube to relax too. Everyone has some mindless entertainment they enjoy. Levy is mindless entertainment.

llama36

Jul 11, 2022

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#1422

For example... there was some popular TV show way back before you were born... I think it was CSI Miami?

Might have been a different one, but anyway, it was really popular, and there was some article about how the producers made the show... and they said on purpose the characters, plot, and dialogue were simple enough that a person could follow the whole story without looking at the TV. That was one of the benchmarks they aimed for.

Or you might take reading for example (books or articles). Professional authors can write really well, but to sell well you have to purposefully keep things simple and dumb.

That's not an insult to movies or books or Levy, it's just human nature that we don't have infinite energy. We spend our energy on things that matter most, and that's a good thing. With what little energy we have left over we watch people like Levy

DiogenesDue

Jul 11, 2022

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#1423

nMsALpg wrote:

For example... there was some popular TV show way back before you were born... I think it was CSI Miami?

Might have been a different one, but anyway, it was really popular, and there was some article about how the producers made the show... and they said on purpose the characters, plot, and dialogue were simple enough that a person could follow the whole story without looking at the TV. That was one of the benchmarks they aimed for.

Or you might take reading for example (books or articles). Professional authors can write really well, but to sell well you have to purposefully keep things simple and dumb.

That's not an insult to movies or books or Levy, it's just human nature that we don't have infinite energy. We spend our energy on things that matter most, and that's a good thing. With what little energy we have left over we watch people like Levy

I can save you time...here's a formula for almost all CSI/Law and Order/Bones/Criminal Minds whatever shows:

Step one: pick an new grisly way to kill someone

Step two: have a morgue scene with something icky

Step three: show some angst from the cast members

Step four: go interview witnesses...bonus points if witnesses are strippers, who must always be interviewed at their work location

Step five: push one theory and make it most plausible

Step six: drop hints for another theory and make it implausible without a certain piece of information

Step seven: arrest and interrogate suspects, bonus points for rogue cops who passionately violate people's rights to get "the truth", because the system can't hold them back from getting Justice...(never, ever show a violation that turns out to be dead wrong ...)

Step eight: cast member feel good scene where the survivors are happy and moving on with their shattered lives, thanks to our heroes

llama36

Jul 11, 2022

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#1424

btickler wrote:

nMsALpg wrote:

For example... there was some popular TV show way back before you were born... I think it was CSI Miami?

Might have been a different one, but anyway, it was really popular, and there was some article about how the producers made the show... and they said on purpose the characters, plot, and dialogue were simple enough that a person could follow the whole story without looking at the TV. That was one of the benchmarks they aimed for.

Or you might take reading for example (books or articles). Professional authors can write really well, but to sell well you have to purposefully keep things simple and dumb.

That's not an insult to movies or books or Levy, it's just human nature that we don't have infinite energy. We spend our energy on things that matter most, and that's a good thing. With what little energy we have left over we watch people like Levy

I can save you time...here's a formula for almost all CSI/Law and Order/Bones/Criminal Minds whatever shows:

Step one: pick an new grisly way to kill someone

Step two: have a morgue scene with something icky

Step three: show some angst from the cast members

Step four: go interview witnesses...bonus points if witnesses are strippers, who must always be interviewed at their work location

Step five: push one theory and make it most plausible

Step six: drop hints for another theory and make it implausible without a certain piece of information

Step seven: arrest and interrogate suspects, bonus points for rogue cops who passionately violate people's rights to get "the truth", because the system can't hold them back from getting Justice...(never, ever show a violation that turns out to be dead wrong ...)

Step eight: cast member feel good scene where the survivors are happy and moving on with their shattered lives, thanks to our heroes

I never watched a lot of them, but man, step 7 really annoyed me once.

The bad guy did bad things to kids, and the cop in question had a young daughter... which supposedly made it ok that he (the cop) breaks into this guy's apartment and beat him up... luckily it was the right person... but even then it was extremely illegal, like what the hell... but we as the audience are supposed to forgive it since he has a photogenic white girl daughter. (Nothing bad happened to the cop's family, it's just the fact that he's a dad.) Fking gross.

But that's what I get for turning my brain on while watching the show

xor_eax_eax05

Jul 11, 2022

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#1425

nMsALpg wrote:

For example... there was some popular TV show way back before you were born... I think it was CSI Miami?

Might have been a different one, but anyway, it was really popular, and there was some article about how the producers made the show... and they said on purpose the characters, plot, and dialogue were simple enough that a person could follow the whole story without looking at the TV. That was one of the benchmarks they aimed for.

Or you might take reading for example (books or articles). Professional authors can write really well, but to sell well you have to purposefully keep things simple and dumb.

That's not an insult to movies or books or Levy, it's just human nature that we don't have infinite energy. We spend our energy on things that matter most, and that's a good thing. With what little energy we have left over we watch people like Levy

Levy is creating content for U2000 elo players, of course he needs to dumb it down. Hikaru does the same too, because he knows what he's Twitch fanbase is rated at.

llama36

Jul 11, 2022

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#1426

And there was some scene where another officer is all "you know that was really bad and illegal"

Other cop: "Yeah I know, I'm sorry"

Everyone else: "Oh ok, he's sorry, let's move on"

lol

llama36

Jul 11, 2022

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#1427

xor_eax_eax05 wrote:

nMsALpg wrote:

For example... there was some popular TV show way back before you were born... I think it was CSI Miami?

Might have been a different one, but anyway, it was really popular, and there was some article about how the producers made the show... and they said on purpose the characters, plot, and dialogue were simple enough that a person could follow the whole story without looking at the TV. That was one of the benchmarks they aimed for.

Or you might take reading for example (books or articles). Professional authors can write really well, but to sell well you have to purposefully keep things simple and dumb.

That's not an insult to movies or books or Levy, it's just human nature that we don't have infinite energy. We spend our energy on things that matter most, and that's a good thing. With what little energy we have left over we watch people like Levy

Levy is creating content for U2000 elo players, of course he needs to dumb it down. Hikaru does the same too, because he knows what he's Twitch fanbase is rated at.

He's creating content, yes, I agree.

Whether it's educational, well... just look at how many subs he has, and that will answer whether it's educational

DiogenesDue

Jul 11, 2022

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#1428

nMsALpg wrote:

And there was some scene where another officer is all "you know that was really bad and illegal"

Other cop: "Yeah I know, I'm sorry"

Everyone else: "Oh ok, he's sorry, let's move on"

lol

Yeah, they give lip service to the transgression and on to the next scene.

llama36

Jul 11, 2022

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#1429

Law and Order was fun because you (or at least I) couldn't predict the verdict. Sometimes they made you dislike one side, but then that side wins in the end anyway, so that was fun for me, because there was this tension the whole time of wanting your side to win, but knowing they might lose.

llama36

Jul 11, 2022

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#1430

Steven-ODonoghue wrote:

btickler wrote:

Step four: go interview witnesses...bonus points if witnesses are strippers, who must always be interviewed at their work location

Leslie Nielsen was great

DiogenesDue

Jul 11, 2022

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#1431

Steven-ODonoghue wrote:

btickler wrote:

Step four: go interview witnesses...bonus points if witnesses are strippers, who must always be interviewed at their work location

I should also have mentioned a general trend of adding dumbed-down expositions for the public so they can understand the plot...John Mulaney does a good routine on Ice-T doing this:

novetan5

Jul 12, 2022

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#1432

I learned a lot fr him

BlueHen86

Jul 12, 2022

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#1433

btickler wrote:

Steven-ODonoghue wrote:

btickler wrote:

Step four: go interview witnesses...bonus points if witnesses are strippers, who must always be interviewed at their work location

I should also have mentioned a general trend of adding dumbed-down expositions for the public so they can understand the plot...John Mulaney does a good routine on Ice-T doing this:

Great clip. Love John Mulaney.

BlueHen86

Jul 12, 2022

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#1434

He is good

Aero544

Jul 12, 2022

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#1435

He’s an IM. He’s really good.

GoyaElDuroPR

Jul 12, 2022

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#1436

xor_eax_eax05

Jul 12, 2022

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#1437

Yeah well it does not do well for his image, he's an IM, trying to sell courses and everything, and struggles against 1900 fide rated players. It's understandable. Besides, Twitch and youtube probably pay him more than he will ever earn teaching chess, and he's got a wife and probably family to take care of in the future, so he will go where the money goes.

Makes sense.

DCthedestroyer

Jul 17, 2022

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#1438

So sad

DrSpudnik

Jul 24, 2022

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#1439

DUNBARTOE wrote:

I HATE GOTHAMCHESS

Care to elaborate?

Why?

BCchessnut

Jul 28, 2022

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#1440

Today's Levy video is interesting; in that since retiring competitive chess, he is up a lot of ELO on this site. Up to 2800 something.