How good is the Backyard Professor?

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AlisonHart wrote:

BYP is about my level: middling 1200s to middling 1300s. 

 

His OTB is under 800.

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Ziryab.  He does not pretend to be an expert on anything.  He appeals to the beginning player.  He motivates them to want to learn more.  He makes learning fun and therefore chess fun.  He is not for you, and that is well.  You should be reading and studying Dovererski and Chess Informant..  But beginners are not at your level.  The problems they face are things so basic to you that you do those things without thinking about them.  Allowing a smother mate is ridiculous to you; to them, it is the most brilliant move they have ever seen.  In short, he speaks and understands beginner; you understand trainer language.

 

 

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Nwap111 wrote:

He is entertaining, thoughtful, and sincere.

And if he added "chess knowledge" to this list he'd be a good chess teacher.



Nwap111 wrote:

For beginners, he is excellent to start with.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.



Nwap111 wrote:

People who criticise him tend to be of tne higher-rated type who see errors he makes and therefore consider him weak to teach.  But these are the same players wno do not and cannot understand the weaknesses of tne lower-rated player.  He teaches, as he learns, even points out his mistakes, showing that even the best of teachers err.  

If he teaches factually incorrect information, then the rating of those watching makes no difference. He is a bad teacher for everyone.

People who think he's not unbearable tend to be lower rated players who confuse his charisma and enthusiasm for worthwhile instruction.

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

The BYP takes u thru his thought process. Higher-rated players laugh openly ('cuz they've been there already) but it's revealing and it's helpful to players under 1600 - where most players involuntarily make camp.

I watched Akobian and Seirawan videos aimed at 1400-1600 ish players, and felt like Iearned something, because they present high quality games, and make high quality comments.

I don't dislike BYP because he's not talking about complicated ideas, I dislike BYP because he gives factually incorrect information.

(Full disclosure, I haven't seen any of his new videos, so who knows, maybe he's gotten better?)

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GentlePeaceLove wrote:

Edit:  I found him on youtube.  I estimate him to be about 1800 USCF rating

I estimate if even one person doesn't notice your account is only minutes old, and a troll account, then that will be 1 too many.

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CheaterTwo wrote:

Edit:  I found him on youtube.  I estimate him to be about 1800 USCF rating

 

I found his rating in the USCF database. He is less than 800. He only played in two events. All of the games are posted at https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-backyard-professors-uscf-rated-games

 

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Nwap111 wrote:

Ziryab.  He does not pretend to be an expert on anything. 

 

I've watched his videos. He speaks with authority, but he is wrong. 

For instance, he offers a game with the Fried Liver Attack. He lacks even the most basic understanding of the strategic and tactical ideas in the opening, claims (incorrectly) that Jeremy Silman teaches not to worry about the material, and wholly misjudges almost everything that is happening on the board. Read the comments below the video. Players with some sense have dissected the errors.

His focus is on what Silman teaches. He presents Silman's teachings incorrectly, and with a poorly chosen example that undermines the point that he credits to Silman.


Also, he chose the title "backyard professor". Those of us who have taught college know how the term is used casually by students to refer to all teachers, and how the term also denotes a ranking system: Assistant Professor, Associate Professor, Professor.

He might as well call himself Doktor She*skopf.

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GentlePeaceLove escribió:
Ziryab wrote:
GentlePeaceLove wrote:

Edit:  I found him on youtube.  I estimate him to be about 1800 USCF rating

 

I found his rating in the USCF database. He is less than 800. He only played in two events. All of the games are posted at https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-backyard-professors-uscf-rated-games

 

I'm sure that he didn't play in quite awhile.  I think his current analysis and his recent play against the aforementioned 1900 was easily 1800 USCF level or in other words 1000 FIDE

Say what?!

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My advice to beginners, watch him yourself.  See if you like him.  Learning is about fun and encouragement to learn more.  If BYP leads you on that path, enjoy it. .  If he doesn't, find someone else.  Alot of other presenters online.  Find one you like and understand.

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When he communicates stuff the players said, or the GM analysis, obviously those are good comments.

But the other 80% of what he says is just filler. Like "look at this powerful pawn formation. That's going to be very important later"

But there's nothing powerful about it, and it doesn't matter later, he's just ad libbing nonsense.

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He's an 1800 rated storyteller, sure.

Probably closer to GM level.

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I randomly clicked through, but just for example, at one point he's talking about how white has extra space, and how that's probably a good thing to mention because Silman sometimes talks about space too.

In fact he's so excited that Silman mentioned space that you might think Silman came up with the idea, but the three classic elements were space, time, and force. This is going back to Capablanca's time at least.

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GentlePeaceLove wrote:
mariners234 wrote:

He's an 1800 rated storyteller, sure.

Probably closer to GM level.

No,  I meant the objectivity.

Yeah I caught that, but since I know you're a troll getting me to bite is a lost cause.

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Haha, yeah, he says stuff like that too. That's the ad libbing I was talking about.

1800 storyteller maybe.

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mariners234 wrote:

... but the three classic elements were space, time, and force. This is going back to Capablanca's time at least.

 

Steinitz and Tarrasch both discuss these in books published while Capablanca was a child. Staunton discusses time. BTW, if you want to find a chess teacher who barely cracks 1800, look to Staunton.

BYP doesn't even correctly distinguish ?! from !?. Maybe he's drunk.

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Troll, yes, but why precisely 1800 USCF equal to 1000 FIDE? That's a bit over the top.

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GentlePeaceLove wrote:
mariners234 wrote:

Haha, yeah, he says stuff like that too. That's the ad libbing I was talking about.

1800 storyteller maybe.

I think you're grossly overestimating 1800 USCF.   

 

That's how they are.

Your storyteller rating though, not quite 1800...

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GentlePeaceLove escribió:
Pulpofeira wrote:

Troll, yes, but why precisely 1800 USCF equal to 1000 FIDE? That's a bit over the top.

Ziryab seems to agree with you or he would have understood my earlier claims.  No,  it's a pretty good translation.  1800 USCF is about 1000 FIDE in terms of raw chess knowledge, skill and performance.

Ziryab, I'm a 1562 FIDE. Be very afraid. grin.png

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Gentle.  First, let me concede that he is not nor pretends to be of 1800 USCF;.  Nevertheless, both his explanation of the game and humor turn a very technical ending into one which is un derstandable to beginners.  This example you gave is a very good example of what I was talking about. . He took a very difficult concept and explained it in simple terms. Ateacher gathers information, selects, presents i n his style. That is exactly what he does.  In this video, he took a subtle concept and explained  endgame theory in a very simple way, hard to do.

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I realize that you made the claim.  I am conceding to those who are protesting that he is 1800.  But, he demonstrates that even a beginner can make a good teacher.