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Reb wrote:

I dont feel the thousands of blitz games I have played helped my slow game except in time scrambles . Playing a lot of blitz creates habits that are bad for classic/slow games . 

Did you go through your blitz games and study something new after 50 games of blitz?

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skotheim2 wrote:
Reb wrote:

I dont feel the thousands of blitz games I have played helped my slow game except in time scrambles . Playing a lot of blitz creates habits that are bad for classic/slow games . 

Did you go through your blitz games and study something new after 50 games of blitz?

A second good point: post-mortem (and not just jumping on to the next blitz game) can be helpful, even if the analysis is superficial.  I played a ton of blitz games with an IM, and I had him explain after each one what I did that made things go very badly.  Each lose has a reason.  Quickly finding it and moving on can be a help.

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A second good point: post-mortem (and not just jumping on to the next blitz game) can be helpful, even if the analysis is superficial.  I played a ton of blitz games with an IM, and I had him explain after each one what I did that made things go very badly.  Each lose has a reason.  Quickly finding it and moving on can be a help.

I do this, but its HARD with a computer because you have to just look at each move, not just 'oh that's a blunder'.  I use chess.com's computer for the 1st analysis and if i want more I can always use an engine.

But often in my case it boils down to a blunder. 8/  I'm getting better about hanging pieces.  I would love to analyze my games for en pris.

 

Regarding the Scotch... yea, its awesome. I love it.  You just have to watch what you're doing.  I haven't played the Scotch Gambit much (gambits are scary) but I am at least familiar with it.  I am biased towards the Scotch though b/c of Kasparov and only b/c I admire him.

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denniscomeaux33 wrote:

I have tried to make this concise.    I have failed.

A very serious question here.  What is the best advice you could give to me when I've noticed my rating is just awfully stagnant.  I blunder at least 2-3x / game and honestly, its because of TIME. 

I don't know how helpful you are going to find this post...

 

I confess that I haven't read a single reply to your OP so I am possibly repeating people.

 

At your level you should not be finding it hard to imrpove. You should litterally be improving after every game you play. That said, perhaps you should identify exactly what your level of play is a little better. When I play blitz games I blunder about 10x per game and I could beat you 130% of the time, so to say that you blunder at least twice a game is an enormous understatement.

 

Don't learn opening lines and don't play blitz. If you're still not improving then something is seriously wrong.

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Game_of_Pawns wrote:

At your level you should not be finding it hard to imrpove. You should litterally be improving after every game you play. That said, perhaps you should identify exactly what your level of play is a little better. When I play blitz games I blunder about 10x per game and I could beat you 130% of the time, so to say that you blunder at least twice a game is an enormous understatement.

 

Don't learn opening lines and don't play blitz. If you're still not improving then something is seriously wrong.

I'm going to venture a guess at your age -- under 30? ;-)  I'm 42.  Its possible also... sadly... that I stink at chess. 8)

However i also know teh quality of my studying isn't very high.  That could be it too.  This is such a tough sport to improve in, but oh man, what a sport. 8) I really love how often there are no right answers.

Also, I'm only trying to improve my Standard rating.  I don't care about blitz and will play blitz sometimes with weird openings just to get a feel for them so my rating there is awful.

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denniscomeaux33 wrote:
Game_of_Pawns wrote:

At your level you should not be finding it hard to imrpove. You should litterally be improving after every game you play. That said, perhaps you should identify exactly what your level of play is a little better. When I play blitz games I blunder about 10x per game and I could beat you 130% of the time, so to say that you blunder at least twice a game is an enormous understatement.

 

Don't learn opening lines and don't play blitz. If you're still not improving then something is seriously wrong.

I'm going to venture a guess at your age -- under 30? ;-)  I'm 42.  Its possible also... sadly... that I stink at chess. 8)

However i also know teh quality of my studying isn't very high.  That could be it too.  This is such a tough sport to improve in, but oh man, what a sport. 8) I really love how often there are no right answers.

I completely agree that age has everything to do with it.  When I played tournament chess, I was travelling with a couple of kids (8 and 13).  I studied all the time, non-stop, and they maybe studied an hour or two per week and played blitz at the chess club for two 8-hr sessions per week.  With my 30+ hours of study, I gained a little less than 300 points on both of those years (1000 to 1300 in the first year, 1300 to 1600 in the second).  The 8 year old went from 999 to 1437 and 1437 to 1702, while the older brother went from 1609 to 1890 and 2116.  All of this is USCF classic time control rating.  A 25 year-old can't hold a candle to a young teenager's ability to make progress, and the situation is probably all the worse when it comes to comparing a 45 year-old's ability to a 32 year-old's.

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30 minute games are bad for you if you're bad at time management. Try playing 10 minute games until you get better at playing under time pressure.

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Milliern wrote:

I completely agree that age has everything to do with it.  When I played tournament chess, I was travelling with a couple of kids (8 and 13).  I studied all the time, non-stop, and they maybe studied an hour or two per week and played blitz at the chess club for two 8-hr sessions per week.  With my 30+ hours of study, I gained a little less than 300 points on both of those years (1000 to 1300 in the first year, 1300 to 1600 in the second).  The 8 year old went from 999 to 1437 and 1437 to 1702, while the older brother went from 1609 to 1890 and 2116.  All of this is USCF classic time control rating.  A 25 year-old can't hold a candle to a young teenager's ability to make progress, and the situation is probably all the worse when it comes to comparing a 45 year-old's ability to a 32 year-old's.

I'm in my mid early 40s Cool.  I may not improve b/c well... young brains are better at a lot of things.  And chess, although played young, and studied young, I didn't do that much.  There's God given talent too to contend with.  My kids are improving rapidly and I have told them that if they just play regularly and study just a bit when they get older they could easily beat me one day.

But I will not stop playing.  I really enjoy it, it sharpens the mind, and reminds me of my younger days.  I play chess because I enjoy it, I study it because I want to ask God for his book explorer when I get there because one day we will know if white technically should win every single time when playing the ultimate opponent who has the entire book of possible moves. 

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I gained 668 points in a year and I'm fairly sure what I did is not possible for anyone over about 30 years old. But improvement in general? Probably people of all ages can improve, but it becomes much harder it seems.

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Reb wrote:

I dont feel the thousands of blitz games I have played helped my slow game except in time scrambles . Playing a lot of blitz creates habits that are bad for classic/slow games .>>>

I never found that blitz harmed my slow game. I used to prepare for tournaments with half a dozen five minute games. This is because I use a trigger mechanism, which is keeping score of the game. I never keep score of blitz games and thus, when I'm keeping score, the unconscious part of me knows it's a serious game. Meanwhile, blitz sharpens the reactions and gets the mind thinking tactically. I won a lot of tournaments.

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denniscomeaux33 wrote:
 I study it because I want to ask God for his book explorer when I get there because one day we will know if white technically should win every single time when playing the ultimate opponent who has the entire book of possible moves. 

Please refrain from posting religious views, especially incorrect ones...

 

As for the perfect game. It is a draw. That is all but proven.

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dpnorman wrote:

@X PLAYER JX


I can tell that you have good intentions with your posts but they are irritatingly long>>>>

I can't read them. I don't want to waste my time with long posts with very little useful content. I don't want to know what Xplayer had for breakfast.

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xman720 wrote:

I love the scotch gambit very much. I understand your love for it! The opening I play often transposes to the scotch gambit.

On the subject of whether opening is important at the beginner level, I will cite the vast number of games I've played which begin like this.

If only black knew his theory and didn't lose straight out of the gate.

Stockfish already evaluates at +0.6

Excellent example showing how Opening are important.

Blacks king is in the center exposed and black will have to deal with his king safety well into the middle game. Allowing white the chance to develop with some tempo.