How is this a DRAW?

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http://live.chess.com/live?v=2014121901#g=1023884534

There's the link to the match.

His clock ran out (0:00.0), but I still had 0:47 left on my clock. Follow that link to see the match and you'll see that his time limit ran out, but I can still move freely as there was an open spot in c2.

So, I can move, but his time ran out, "How is that a DRAW?"

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This has happened to me more than once by the way on previous accounts (I terminated them since). Last time checked, when playing on a time limit, either

A) one opponent checkmates the other before their or their opponents time expires;

B) whichever opponent's time runs out first loses if neither opponent has checkmated the other before then.

 

I don't get it.

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you clearly don't look at the rulebook then

the game is automatically drawn if it is impossible for the opponent to checkmate

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I think your opponent will be madder than you are with a draw because he ran out of time before he mated you. You only have your king. You don't get to win if you have insufficient material to mate your opponent when they run out of time.

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1 dollar for every idiot on chess.com BAM! and suddenly im milionaire....

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When did that rule get changed yres?

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pilotk9 wrote:

When did that rule get changed yres?

Never. But please don't tell him, OK?

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incantevoleutopia wrote:

1 dollar for every idiot on chess.com BAM! and suddenly im milionaire....

Did your mother/father ever tell you not to burn unnecessary bridges?

You shouldn't make it a habitual habit to write arrogant, obnoxious, adolescent comments to strangers on the internet.

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KirbyCake wrote:

you clearly don't look at the rulebook then

the game is automatically drawn if it is impossible for the opponent to checkmate

You're missing my point here.

The match is based on a time limit.

It should be consistant throughout all matches that whoever runs out of time first losses unless somebody checkmates the other.

I've played other 3min. matches where I did not checkmate my opponent within the time limit and he won.

I've played other 3min. matches where my opponent did not checkmate me within the time limit and he lost.

But this, this is annoying and seems incosistant with those other matches I listed.

Matter of fact if you skim through my matches on my account page you might find some of those types of matches where it was a similar match of me with just my King and my opponant haing more pieces than me but his time ran out and I won.

I've read the comments and still don't see the logic.

I had a previous account where the same situation happened.

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colinsaul wrote:

I think your opponent will be madder than you are with a draw because he ran out of time before he mated you. You only have your king. You don't get to win if you have insufficient material to mate your opponent when they run out of time.

I'm not mad over some video game on the internet.

Only sore losers get mad.

It's just a game and doesn't make a person any better at life in general.

Also, logically, since I've got "insufficient" material to win then as soon as that occurs the match should automatically stop and be a draw according to your comment. But, in that particular match the game continued thus showing that it goes by time or checkmate. There was no checkmate and his time ran out because he played to slow. I thought the clock was originally added so there would be no Draws. If you didn't checkmate your opponent before the time ran out then whoever's clock ran out first, lost. It was to stop Draws. It was like a backup so there would be a winner no matter what. No checkmate, fine, then it turns into a whoever moves the fastest match usually about 20-30sec. left. However, here apparently something isn't right.

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GnrfFrtzl wrote:

Honestly, it should have always been a rule. It makes a ton more sense than letting the far worse side win by cheap means.

I don't get it.

It should be that if you don't checkmate your opponant within the time limit alloted per match then whoever runs out of time first loses and obviously if one or the other opponent lacks the necessary pieces to checkmate his opponent then it is truly a draw unless the rule of most pieces on boards is in affect. If that was the case then he should have won because he had more pieces than me, but it was declared a Draw. I should've won because his time ran out and if it was going by Draw due to lack of pieces then the match should of stopped as soon as my King was singled. Doesn't seem logical to me.

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yeres30 seems to have the right answer.

I don't ever remember it being like it is today.

But then again I play online now here and there but I used to only play board chess on a table. I didn't have the internet.

Some of this is new to me what they do.

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I get it now, so no need for further commenting.

If anybody knows a modertor feel free to ask him/her to dealete this post.

Or not, whatever!

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its not a draw if his time runs out

Avatar of pilotk9

I'm still confused? Yah seem upset about the outcome of the game OP

But then yah go on in another lost to defend the rule (draw for insufficient material)

And I'm still wondering.

When was this a rule that changed??

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Never mind I understand now

You're proposing that when you have nothing but a king left the match should be automatically drawn

M

Doesn't make sense though because you have to factor in that you have an opponent

And they still have a chance at winning

Just cuz you only have the option of lose or draw doesn't mean the game should end in draw

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The game does not end in a draw when you've got insufficient material to win. This wouldn't be fair if your opponent had sufficient material to win and plenty of time.

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I'm going to be hard on you. If you want a proper moral victory why don't you checkmate your opponent within the time limit instead of hanging on with insufficient material hoping for your opponent's time to run out to get a win.

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xxxxT3STxxxx wrote:
colinsaul wrote:

I think your opponent will be madder than you are with a draw because he ran out of time before he mated you. You only have your king. You don't get to win if you have insufficient material to mate your opponent when they run out of time.

I'm not mad over some video game on the internet.

Only sore losers get mad.

It's just a game and doesn't make a person any better at life in general.

Also, logically, since I've got "insufficient" material to win then as soon as that occurs the match should automatically stop and be a draw according to your comment. But, in that particular match the game continued thus showing that it goes by time or checkmate. There was no checkmate and his time ran out because he played to slow. I thought the clock was originally added so there would be no Draws. If you didn't checkmate your opponent before the time ran out then whoever's clock ran out first, lost. It was to stop Draws. It was like a backup so there would be a winner no matter what. No checkmate, fine, then it turns into a whoever moves the fastest match usually about 20-30sec. left. However, here apparently something isn't right.

You have absolutely no sense of logic. Your entire argument is completely nonsensical.