How is this person a WCM?

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https://www.chess.com/member/miasahely

Their fide card says they have the WCM title but they have no elo, and their chess.com rapid rating is 900, blitz 400 and bullet a whopping 100…

Martin_Stahl
jli30c wrote:

https://www.chess.com/member/miasahely

Their fide card says they have the WCM title but they have no elo, and their chess.com rapid rating is 900…

She played at the Chess Olympiad

https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=381200

It would appear the player qualified for an automatic title in the event.

Martin_Stahl

https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/B01DirectTitles2024

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45th FIDE Chess Olympiad 2024 - All the Information - Chess.com

I checked her games, and against rated players, she only has 1 win and a draw. The rest were wins against unrated people. Since you need to win against 3 people to open a rating, she is unrated in FIDE

borovicka75
This proves that women titles are ridiculous, as pointed by Judit (she used another words).
Martin_Stahl
borovicka75 wrote:
This proves that women titles are ridiculous, as pointed by Judit (she used another words).

There are also automatic regular titles anyone can get.

DepressoEspresso01

Oop

magipi

Fun fact: St Kitts and Nevis didn't have a men team for this olympiad. And it seems that there is no overwhelming competition for the female team either.

So anyone who complains about Mia's title can try to transfer their federation to St Kitts and Nevis, get into the Olympic team, score 50% in the next olympiad and get a CM or WCM title.

blueemu
borovicka75 wrote:
This proves that women titles are ridiculous...

A man in the same situation would have received a CM title.

Even worse.

Instead of proving that "women's titles are worthless", you seem to have proved that "borovika75 is a misogynistic bigot".

StrategicFocus

Do not listen to the naysayers. Great country. Great chess federation.

borovicka75

Thank you very much for being polite and teach me a new word. That is not only my opinion that woman titles are counterproductive for girls motivation, it was said by Judit Polgar. I dont know what word you find for her, but i believe she is more competent in chess than you. By the way, i love women.

nklristic
borovicka75 wrote:

Thank you very much for being polite and teach me a new word. That is not only my opinion that woman titles are counterproductive for girls motivation, it was said by Judit Polgar. I dont know what word you find for her, but i believe she is more competent in chess than you. By the way, i love women.

Some open titles are like that as well.

This happens with some regional FIDE events, usually for younger players and good performance on such tournaments merit CM title for instance. There are people with CM title with FIDE rating around 1 500 and similar as a result.

Not the best thing, for sure, but it is what it is.

This usually happens in regions where chess is not so popular, so someone lower rated wins a tournament like that and gains title automatically.

Most titles (open and women ones) are won by rating, but some are not.

One interesting example is world senior champion. Whoever wins it, if he doesn't have GM title already, gets it because he is now a senior champion. That is how Larry Kaufman became GM in 2008.

MaetsNori
borovicka75 wrote:

This proves that women titles are ridiculous ...

This thread isn't really about women's titles, though.

A man would've earned a title with the same performance as the player that the OP questioned, as well.

FIDE grants a provisional title to anyone (man or woman) if they attain a certain minimum score in an Olympiad.

blueemu
MaetsNori wrote:
borovicka75 wrote:

This proves that women titles are ridiculous ...

This thread isn't really about women's titles, though.

A man would've earned a title with the same performance as the player that the OP questioned, as well.

FIDE grants a provisional title to anyone (man or woman) if they attain a certain minimum score in an Olympiad.

Yes, it was the "this proves" that annoyed me. It proved nothing of the sort.

borovicka75

I did not know FIDE invented such “improvements”. I only know that me reaching Candidate Master title required huge amount of time spent by studying chess and playing tournaments.

nklristic
borovicka75 wrote:

I did not know FIDE invented such “improvements”. I only know that me reaching Candidate Master title required huge amount of time spent by studying chess and playing tournaments.

If you are FIDE CM, you should message chess.com and get diamond membership for free, along with that sweet CM tag.

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8712557-how-do-i-get-my-title-added-to-my-chess-com-profile

blueemu
borovicka75 wrote:

I did not know FIDE invented such “improvements”. I only know that me reaching Candidate Master title required huge amount of time spent by studying chess and playing tournaments.

Then the problem is not "women's titles", the problem is "automatic titles for tournament participation".

You are conflating two different things.

HangingPiecesChomper
blueemu wrote:
borovicka75 wrote:
This proves that women titles are ridiculous...

A man in the same situation would have received a CM title.

Even worse.

Instead of proving that "women's titles are worthless", you seem to have proved that "borovika75 is a misogynistic bigot".

making accusations against other people with very flimsy evidence?

sawdof
borovicka75 wrote:

I did not know FIDE invented such “improvements”. I only know that me reaching Candidate Master title required huge amount of time spent by studying chess and playing tournaments.

https://ratings.fide.com/profile/318132/chart

It's a hard life

Edit: oh wait

https://www.chess.cz/hrac/2922/

Guess KM is a national CM

sawdof
borovicka75 wrote:

.... By the way, i love women.

Sometimes we wonder why they don't love us back. Mysteries ...