How many different chess positions are there?

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fburton

What are the upper and lower bounds on chess tactics?

petrikeckman

There are many, and most of them are as stupid as this: 

http://www.chess.com/analysis-board-editor?diagram_id=2741556

fburton

Rarely have I seen such a stupid position. FFS! Yell

petrikeckman

So you mean that we count only clever positions? I thought the guestion was "How many possible positions there are?". If only clever positions are accepted, then who can tell which positions are allowed and which not?

EDIT: sorry, my answer was not answer to your question about tactics.

fburton

No need to apologize! I think the question you raised is very relevant to the original question. Mine was rather at a tangent.

petrikeckman

I tried to count the upper pound. This is wrong, too simple, but I tried:

There are 13 different ways the one square can be filled:

1. Empty

2.White Pawn

3.Black Pawn

4.White Rook

5.Black Rook

6. White Bishop

7. Black Bishop

8. White Queen

9. Black Queen

10. White King

11. Black King 

12. White Knight

13. Black Knight

The amount of filled Squares is 64 so we get upper pound number 13^64 = 1.96.. × 10^71

EDIT: Ou, this was already said in a first post... :)

Dadg777

Austin Powers pulled me aside & told me there are 1 million positions.

petrikeckman
fburton wrote:

Rarely have I seen such a stupid position. FFS! 


This is funny too? 

Anton_Genchev

I was working out about all position with king and pawns but this took more than 5 hours and gave up. The all positions are maybe something about 40 zeros, I suppose, but probably less. Still big number.

retiredredbear

960 if you seek adventure.

MarcoBR444

LOL !!

Ghostqiuyu

We have great mathematicians here...

HumongusChungus1234
petrikeckman wrote:
fburton wrote:

Rarely have I seen such a stupid position. FFS! 


This is funny too? 

Why are the black pawns shaped like a dick?

NeilBear

64*63 = 4032 possible king-king positions

corners has 4(corners)*3(connectiong squares) = 12

sides has 24(squares on side)*5(connecting squares) = 120

middles of the board 36(squares in middle)*9(connecting squares)= 324

 

total illegal positions is 12+120+324=456

Total legal positions 4032-456=3576

think the maths is slightly out?? 

batgirl

Well, sitting is the most common one.  However, you can play lying down or standing too.  There are probably other, though less comfortable, positions too.

DiogenesDue
Kakamou12 wrote:
petrikeckman wrote:
fburton wrote:

Rarely have I seen such a stupid position. FFS! 


This is funny too? 

Why are the black pawns shaped like a dick?

If that is what yours looks like, you might want to see a doctor.

HumongusChungus1234
batgirl wrote:

Well, sitting is the most common one.  However, you can play lying down or standing too.  There are probably other, though less comfortable, positions too.

you can always count on batgirl to give you objective information on any subject. Personnally I prefer to play upside down with my feet clinging on a tree, is it really uncommon?

Diakonia

4...and i know tham all 400,000,000 moves deep.

The_Ghostess_Lola

How many different chess positions are there?

A sexy man would never need to ask this question.

Diakonia
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
How many different chess positions are there?

A sexy man would never need to ask this question.

Thats why they make books...