How much is a king worth? - Chess Forums - Page 2

1RedKnight99

Jan 20, 2013

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#21

trysts wrote:

FancyKnight wrote:

trysts wrote:

FancyKnight wrote:

I'm asking from a piece movement point of view, if you had a piece that moved like a king but could be captured, how much would it be worth?

I look at it this way, it would be worth at least a shark without lasers, or to be more clear, it would be worth a yak.

How many lightsabers does the yak have?

That's an excellent question, FancyKnight! There doesn't seem to be much evidence that yaks carry sabers, so I don't know if they were light or heavy.

It's actually sound sabers.

Zeldarian-Zeus

Dec 11, 2020

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#22

FancyKnight wrote:

The king is worth infinite points because if you lose it, you lose the game. However, I'm asking from a piece movement point of view, if you had a piece that moved like a king but could be captured, how much would it be worth? I'm thinking it would be weak in the opening but powerful in the endgame. Also I'm pretty sure it can be used to force mate against a lone king"

But infinite is unlimited so infinite is not a number

1e4c6_O-1

Dec 11, 2020

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#23

it depends on the phase of the game

1e4c6_O-1

Dec 11, 2020

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#24

bruh this was bumped

lucky_Nan

Jul 5, 2021

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#25

it has a value point of infinite so um you dont wa to lose it

lucky_Nan

Jul 5, 2021

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#26

FancyKnight wrote: The king is worth infinite points because if you lose it, you lose the game. However, I'm asking from a piece movement point of view, if you had a piece that moved like a king but could be captured, how much would it be worth? I'm thinking it would be weak in the opening but powerful in the endgame. Also I'm pretty sure it can be used to force mate against a lone king" MAYBE THAT'S RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE THOUGH. FREIND REQUEST PLZ!

lucky_Nan

Jul 5, 2021

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#27

#22

FancyKnight wrote:

The king is worth infinite points because if you lose it, you lose the game. However, I'm asking from a piece movement point of view, if you had a piece that moved like a king but could be captured, how much would it be worth? I'm thinking it would be weak in the opening but powerful in the endgame. Also I'm pretty sure it can be used to force mate against a lone king"

then

Zeldarian-Zeus wrote

But infinite is unlimited so infinite is not a number

Is that correct?

lucky_Nan

Jul 5, 2021

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#28

"1e4c6_O-1

bruh this was bumped

what got bumped.... Help! I need the abulance! Something bumped me! Okay, now that is funny.

lucky_Nan

Jul 5, 2021

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#29

#21

trysts wrote:

FancyKnight wrote:

trysts wrote:

I look at it this way, it would be worth at least a shark without lasers, or to be more clear, it would be worth a yak.

How many lightsabers does the yak have?

That's an excellent question, FancyKnight! There doesn't seem to be much evidence that yaks carry sabers, so I don't know if they were light or heavy.

It's actually sound sabers. WAH

lewis_shepherd

May 2, 2023

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#30

A king is worth as much as a knight. If you promote a pawn to a king, the original king is still the king that has to be checkmated. I tested a variant with 2 kings, and there is a specific king that has to be checkmated.

1e4c6_O-1

May 5, 2023

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#31

lewisshepherdmusic wrote:

A king is worth as much as a knight. If you promote a pawn to a king, the original king is still the king that has to be checkmated. I tested a variant with 2 kings, and there is a specific king that has to be checkmated.

ok but you can't promote to a king though

lewis_shepherd

May 5, 2023

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#32

1e4c6_O-1 wrote:

lewisshepherdmusic wrote:

A king is worth as much as a knight. If you promote a pawn to a king, the original king is still the king that has to be checkmated. I tested a variant with 2 kings, and there is a specific king that has to be checkmated.

ok but you can't promote to a king though

Not in this variant, but in other variants yes

JellybeanTurtle

Jul 7, 2023

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#33

i think it is 4 points

CraigIreland

Jul 7, 2023

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#34

Test your theories. Replace one of Knights or Bishops with a new piece which moves like a King, can give Check and can be captured. See if you win or lose. I feel confident that you'll lose.

The way I imagine your matches will play out is that you'll have to play defensively and eventually be forced to trade your new special piece for a Pawn. If that's the case then it shouldn't be valued at more than 2 points.

You could try the same methodology in balanced end games. In this case I will expect that most matches where there's a significant split in the pawn distribution favour Knights and Bishops due to their mobility.

NotNormLOL

Nov 28, 2024

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#35

When eval bar says there is mate on the board it says -318. Maybe the king is worth 318 points, or is it just mathematics/coded? Probably the latter