How much is a king worth?

It's actually sound sabers.

it depends on the phase of the game

bruh this was bumped

it has a value point of infinite so um you dont wa to lose it

FancyKnight wrote: The king is worth infinite points because if you lose it, you lose the game. However, I'm asking from a piece movement point of view, if you had a piece that moved like a king but could be captured, how much would it be worth? I'm thinking it would be weak in the opening but powerful in the endgame. Also I'm pretty sure it can be used to force mate against a lone king"  MAYBE THAT'S RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE THOUGH. FREIND REQUEST PLZ!

A king is worth as much as a knight. If you promote a pawn to a king, the original king is still the king that has to be checkmated. I tested a variant with 2 kings, and there is a specific king that has to be checkmated.

ok but you can't promote to a king though

Not in this variant, but in other variants yes

i think it is 4 points

Test your theories. Replace one of Knights or Bishops with a new piece which moves like a King, can give Check and can be captured. See if you win or lose. I feel confident that you'll lose.

The way I imagine your matches will play out is that you'll have to play defensively and eventually be forced to trade your new special piece for a Pawn. If that's the case then it shouldn't be valued at more than 2 points.

You could try the same methodology in balanced end games. In this case I will expect that most matches where there's a significant split in the pawn distribution favour Knights and Bishops due to their mobility.

Hmm. Good question.

What you mean is if you have a Queen that moves like the King, how much would that Queen worth.

A King can move to 8 squares. Compare that to a Knight. A King is a small circle. A Knight is a larger circle, also 8 spots.

The King would be worth a Knight. They are both circles with 8 steps. What the King lacks in speed, it makes up for in articulation.

Maybe 4. In tennis, I prefer articulation over speed.

Hmm.

Knights have to move 2 steps from the edge to be full powered. King only 1 step.

I'd give it a solid 4.

Good post.

I just thought of a variant. Inspire by this.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-variants/new-variant-idea-ahab-chess#comment-87435877

Off the top of my head for a catchy name: Decoy Roy. (Decoy Royal)

Decoys for Kings are real in history.

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace.

The Dictator (2012) Aladeen.

Superman II.

The Hidden Fortress.

Real in Vietnamese history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%AA_Lai

The board would be 9 x 9.

The Queen would be the tallest piece.

There would be 2 Kings by her side. One real, one fake. If you capture the real one, the game is over. The fake King can castle too. Both can.

The Kings would be labeled H and T for Heads and Tails. You flip a quarter for heads and tails and put it in a match box on the table.

When you are checkmated, you must show the coin.

Decoy Roy

You can put 2 Kings in the "castle".

You can have the real King in the castle and the fake King on the battlefield.

You can have the fake King in the castle and the real King on the battlefield.

You can have both Kings on the battlefield.

Decoy Roy

How much is deception worth?

Let's say you put your opponent's Queen in check.

He ignores it and checks your Decoy King.

You can take his Queen or you can move the Decoy King and keep the deception going.

How much is deception worth?

That's a great strategic question. And a great philosophical question.

It would defeat computers too.

For every move, there are 4 possibilities. 2 possible real Kings on each side.

It is multi-verse chess. 4 possible universes all in one. Only 1 is real.

Edit 1.

You must switch one of the Bishop and Knight's positions to have opposite colored Bishops. Making it a little bit of Random Fischer Chess.

Edit 2.

Queen in the middle. Kings by her side. Rooks in the corner.

Edit 3.

You can put the Knights and the Bishops anywhere you want so long as the Bishops are opposite colored.

Now this is a real man's game.

Edit 4.

This is like in science fiction and comic books where you have exact copies of the protagonists through

twins

cloning

alternate universe counterparts

androids

chameleons: Mystique, Zartan, Terminator 2, Shang Tsung, etc . . .

He's a fake version of He-Man.

Edit 4.

Reminds me of a 2 part Buck Roger story.

The Hand of Goral

Great philosophical episodes.

Edit 5.

Castling would be the same. King moves 2 squares and switches with Rook.

The decoy King is identical to the real King in every way, except the game goes on if the decoy dies.

Edit 6.

Scratch Queen as the tallest piece. All pieces are the same as now.

Edit 7.

I like 9 x 9 board. It has a "neutral zone", a "no man's land".

Edit 8.

Neither Kings have to move out of check. If you capture the real King you win.

Real King can move into check.

You don't have to say "check".

Edit 9.

Edit 8 is wicked!

Queen checks King. King is defended by a Knight. King doesn't move out of check. Is it a real King or a Decoy King? You don't know.

How much is a King worth?

Edit 10.

It would make chess books obsolete. [I don't know if I like that. Chess is linked with literacy]

There are 36 initial positions. With 4 unknowns because of the decoy Kings.

Every game is a new game.

Edit 11.

Spectators participation.

Spectators can call out the moves. It doesn't matter. They don't know which one is the decoy King. And the players only know their own decoy King.

Makes for a great televised event.

Edit 12.

Real and fake is part of everyday's life.

When eval bar says there is mate on the board it says -318. Maybe the king is worth 318 points, or is it just mathematics/coded? Probably the latter