how much logic was behind tal's sacrafices

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Rf4 Qg5 Nxf7 for white?

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Yeres shows an excellent example! Initially, when I took a look at the positions, I couldn't see a promising line at all. Great Tal!

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Oh Wow! Qc3+ Kb8 Nxd7+ and black is a full rook down. Only great players like Tal can find moves like Qc3+. I was hesitant about Rf4 and Nxf7 coz that's an easy-to-spot tactics and Tal would've played something extraordinary like he did. Thanks for sharing such an amazing game, Yeres!

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MelvinDoucet changed the way we view Chess:

More than there was in front of them.

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tal's sacrifices were all nonsense but he was so intimidating that it worked for him

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Funny Botvinnik quote: If Tal offers a sacrificial, take then think. If I offer a sacrifice, think then take. If Petrosian offers a sacrifice, resign.

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patzermike has a version of a great quote:

Funny Botvinnik quote: If Tal offers a sacrificial, take then think. If I offer a sacrifice, think then take. If Petrosian offers a sacrifice, resign.

patzermike, I know this differently...

If Tal sacrifices, accept.

If I (Botvinnik) sacrifice, decline.

If Petrosian sacrifices, go into a deep think.

another version of this originating with a Fischer idea/comment is:

If Spassky sacrifices, resign.

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Sorry, my edition is crossed up a little.

I believe it goes:

If Tal sacrifices, accept.

If I (Botvinnik) sacrifice, think it over.

If Petrosian sacrifices, resign.

patzermike, Your version was very close to correct.

I quibble with the part where you said "take" if Botvinnik sacrifices.

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Well, doubtless these quotes get a bit altered after multiple retellings. If you researched the quote I'll take your word for the correct version.

ghostofmaroczy wrote:

Sorry, my edition is crossed up a little.

I believe it goes:

If Tal sacrifices, accept.

If I (Botvinnik) sacrifice, think it over.

If Petrosian sacrifices, resign.

patzermike, Your version was very close to correct.

I quibble with the part where you said "take" if Botvinnik sacrifices.

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ghostofmaroczy brought Spassky in to it:

another version of this originating with a Fischer idea/comment is:

If Spassky sacrifices...

Fischer's comment about Spassky is reputed to have come from this Spassky game:

Note 16...Nc6

Fischer's quote was:

"Spassky can blunder away a piece and you don't know if it is a mistake or a really deep sacrifice."

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G.A. Thomas once remarked: When I play Alekhine I never know what he will do next. When I play Capablanca I always know what he will do next, but there is nothing I can do about it.

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patzermike mentioned Alekhine:

G.A. Thomas once remarked: When I play Alekhine I never know what he will do next. When I play Capablanca I always know what he will do next, but there is nothing I can do about it.

That makes a contrast with Rudolf Spielmann who said,

"I can see the combinations Alekhine plays, but I can't get into the same positions."

Alekhine's greatest skill always seems to be setting up dynamic positions in the early middlegame.