It's a fun question though -- chess skill is "invisible" as I sometimes say. What I mean is it's hard for a beginner to realize how much they're outclassed. They often think if they just work a little harder, they can manage to beat that FM or expert
Really? I don't know anyone like that, no beginners. But something similar that probably happened (and still happens) to just about all of us is knowing we're worse than a certain rating group but not knowing what sets this "god group" (basically, any rating group that's like 400 points higher than you) apart from even higher strengths. In other words, it seems like anyone that much higher rated is invincible and makes you wonder, "there are people 400 points even better than that? What else is there to know?". In that way, I know what you're saying about this "invisible strength".
Ah, I like this POV/definition, neat.
As for beginners, I mean beginners who are still so new that nearly all strength above them is still invisible :) My club actually had 2 new guys show up, and I played one of them. Even down a queen, some minor pieces, and a few pawns, he was thinking a long time on each move. Someone asked how his game was going and he said "I'm pretty sure I'll lose... maybe 90%" this is the kind of thing I'm talking about.
Take a beginner and give them a coach, let them play online, or in tournaments, and I'm sure they'll figure it out very fast though.
It's a fun question though -- chess skill is "invisible" as I sometimes say. What I mean is it's hard for a beginner to realize how much they're outclassed. They often think if they just work a little harder, they can manage to beat that FM or expert
Really? I don't know anyone like that, no beginners. But something similar that probably happened (and still happens) to just about all of us is knowing we're worse than a certain rating group but not knowing what sets this "god group" (basically, any rating group that's like 400 points higher than you) apart from even higher strengths. In other words, it seems like anyone that much higher rated is invincible and makes you wonder, "there are people 400 points even better than that? What else is there to know?". In that way, I know what you're saying about this "invisible strength".