How safe is it to go to tournaments right now?

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Marie-AnneLiz
btickler a écrit :
Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
RedGirlZ a écrit :

Israel has already started developing a cure and have stated it'll probably take 3 months before It can be used on humans, so no ur wrong about there being no vaccines for 18 months.

 

Besides, as you stated yourself, it's mortality rate is extremely low, comparable to the flu. Why aren't you freaking out over heart disease? What about cancer? Road related deaths? just one of these things completely dwarfs coronavirus in terms of lethality, numbers and effect, yet you're losing your mind over a stronger version of the common cold.

it's mortality rate is 30 times the normal flue and 4 time the contamination!

it's by far the worst virus in the last 20 years....

Mortality rate in the US is in flux.  It's higher right now because the US sucks at this type of outbreak:

- Scary headlines make more money, so, fear mongering is the norm here, and bad information dilutes good information.

- Americans are used to personal freedoms at all times that are in conflict with stricter quarantine measures .

- The individual is king in the US, and many people will consider themselves special exceptions to any rule set that comes along, and as we have seen right here in this thread, individuals will believe they know better than the authorities/experts.  This is due to a few too many zombie apocalypse movies that some people have a hard time separating from reality .

In a lot of country you don't have to pay to go and see a doctor because they have a universal health system;in the usa you will have a big problem because the CDC is way to small to be in charge of all the cases in the country.....

Uhohspaghettio1
RedGirlZ wrote:

Funny how people are freaking out about the coronavirus, when it's just a stronger form of a cold, and not really lethal unless u are old, or have a pre-existing medical condition, but won't freak out over car related accidents which kill over 6 million people per year in the US alone, or Cancer, which kills way more people a year than the coronavirus does a year. The list could keep going on. Heart disease kills over 600 thousand Americans a year. But no lets freak out over a stronger cold that isn't even lethal to majority of people. 

 

It's stupid. 

 

Holy **** you are DUMB.   

The Corona virus kills 1-3% of people it infects. 15% of elderly people, but also lots of young people if you have some other sort of compromised immune system. It is much more virulent than regular flu. It could end up infecting 30%-40% of the population in the worst case scenario.  What's more is all the indirect effects it could have such as quarantining, suffering, economy crashing and so on.  

The line you're giving about how is what smug people feeling the need to feel superior and "in the know" than others were saying that in the early stages of the virus, before it became so wide and serious. They might even have had a point at that stage, none of them have been saying that for weeks.  

I guess you shouldn't expect intelligence or even the most basically informed person even on something that could kill 1% of the population from someone who puts a young girl as their profile picture, some joke.  

  

AlCzervik

how about this-

you are making a false equivalency mentioning car accidents as it relates to covid-19. it does not relate in any way. heart disease and cancer are killers, yes, but they are not viruses spreading as quickly as this. 

so, the stupid you mention are your comparisons.

AlCzervik

on this you are absolutely wrong. there is zero comparison of covid-19 to the things you mention, yet you once again refer to me as a moron? my post stands. 

and, when you left a group in a huff, it was only because you chose to bolt after you could not answer relevant questions about your opinion. in other words, you are a coward, unwilling to defend what you believe. you are the epitome of, "do not allow the facts to get in the way of my beliefs". it is evidenced perfectly here with your void of reason, comparing a virus to cancer, heart disease, and, of all things, car crashes. 

good luck with your selective reasoning. i bet it works well with other sub-100 iq folks.

 

AlCzervik

i am not the only one to say that you are wrong here. 

it is quite easy to attack instead of looking at what you say. 

so, if you are correct, you must certainly have documented evidence of comparisons of viruses to car crashes, right? i'm sure many scientists have studied the correlation, right?

go ahead, post it.

AlCzervik

you only believe what you want to believe. 

first and foremost for you is that you are right in everything you say (too bad you weren't this gutsy in the group). 

simple numbers of deaths by "X" do not relate to this.

are you aware of how much money is spent on prevention of heart disease and cancer? 

are you aware of how much money was spent on h1n1?

are you aware how much money was spent on ebola (where trump derided obama)?

are you aware of any history or relevant facts?

 

all rhetorical questions, really, as we've all seen your act play out over and over-you're right, and everyone else is wrong. facts? forget them! i'm right!

 

AlCzervik

i'm still waiting for your research comparing car crashes and viruses. you must have it handy since you think you know everything.

or, is this another instance where you make a statement and run away again? 

BlackKaweah

Just got back from the first round of the Western Class Championships. Attendance is down about 100 from last year. They said no shaking hands. They had hand sanitizer wipes and disinfectant to clean your equipment. Prize money still guaranteed, They are going to take a bath on this tournament.

They are doing all they can.

congrandolor
RedGirlZ wrote:
Uhohspaghettio1 wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:

Funny how people are freaking out about the coronavirus, when it's just a stronger form of a cold, and not really lethal unless u are old, or have a pre-existing medical condition, but won't freak out over car related accidents which kill over 6 million people per year in the US alone, or Cancer, which kills way more people a year than the coronavirus does a year. The list could keep going on. Heart disease kills over 600 thousand Americans a year. But no lets freak out over a stronger cold that isn't even lethal to majority of people. 

 

It's stupid. 

 

Holy **** you are DUMB.   

The Corona virus kills 1-3% of people it infects. 15% of elderly people, but also lots of young people if you have some other sort of compromised immune system. It is much more virulent than regular flu. It could end up infecting 30%-40% of the population in the worst case scenario.  What's more is all the indirect effects it could have such as quarantining, suffering, economy crashing and so on.  

The line you're giving about how is what smug people feeling the need to feel superior and "in the know" than others were saying that in the early stages of the virus, before it became so wide and serious. They might even have had a point at that stage, none of them have been saying that for weeks.  

I guess you shouldn't expect intelligence or even the most basically informed person even on something that could kill 1% of the population from someone who puts a young girl as their profile picture, some joke.  

  

You made no coherent argument there, just letting you know. All u did is make assumptions about me. 

 

Also ur first paragraph just resaid what i already said. Good try tho.

Maybe it won't kill us, but don't you have parents, grandparents, old people around you? That is why I'm concerned about the coronavirus

Chse0c

Things are getting really serious in UK. An 80 year old man with underlying health problems actually died 'from Coronavirus' yesterday.

 

Chse0c

I must admit that I have not read every single word in this discussion but it seems to me that Red Girl is putting forward a logical coherent argument. Don't forget, there is logic and there is emotion. Well done, Red Girl.

Strangemover
Chse0c wrote:

Things are getting really serious in UK. An 80 year old man with underlying health problems actually died 'from Coronavirus' yesterday.

 

Apocalypse now. I'm off to Tesco to panic buy. 

AlCzervik
RedGirlZ wrote:
 

Have u bothered reading what I wrote?

well, you have proved that what you write is based on opinions and comparisons that are irrelevant. 

so, he makes a point known to many, but lost on you.

AlCzervik

hey, where's that research comparing car crashes to the virus?

 

DarkLord834
RedGirlZ wrote:

Again you've completely missed my point. This shows you have no comprehension skills. 

 

You mention the money that is poured into the issues I mentioned. That's not relevant to my point. I never said there isn't global action on issues like cancer. The fundamental point I was making is that idiots like you and others in this forum post are freaking out over a virus, that isn't anywhere near as lethal or dangerous as say cancer, heart disease, road related deaths P.A. 

 

The argument isn't that people SHOULDN'T be worried about coronavirus, the argument is it's not a LOGICAL reaction. Theoretically you have a much higher chance of dying in a road related accident if you have a car or take public transport everyday than dying to coronavirus, yet I don't see anyone freaking out about that on the forums. It's a very simple logical argument which clearly your prepubescent mind can't comprehend.

 

You keep asking for research. What statistics do you want? That cancer is more deadly than the coronavirus? You can literally find the answer to this question on google in 5 seconds, so I'm not sure what you're asking me to provide in terms of evidence. It's common sense.

 

 

Are you serious? Flue has a 1-1.5 spread rate. For every on person, approx. 1-2 more people will be infected.

Coronavirus has a 1-3 spread rate. In case you aren't smart enough to realise, that's DOUBLE.

Also, so much effort goes into stopping or preventing car crashes and cancer. This is important, and great, and without it lots more people could die. However, if we all say that the things we actively prevent are killing people, so let's not bother with trying to be safe about the coronavirus, it will spread much faster, infect everyone, destabilise the economy (which is already happening slightly) and cause complete chaos and many more deaths, especially taking into account what the predicted percentage of infection is with all the measures we have in place.

However, if you are more worried about having a heart attack, then go panic somewhere else or read some actual statistics until you realise that this is a pandemic and it is dangerous.

DarkLord834
RedGirlZ wrote:

No i left your group because you're a vile human being that attacks others with no logical points. 

 

You're doing the same here. You just say I'm wrong and don't provide points as to why, and just say you're 100% right. You sound like a little child. Go play in a playground kiddy.

Reading over the earlier conversations, guess what I saw?

YOU providing points that sound like a small child's arguments, with little or no reason to back them up, YOU attacking others and saying that YOU are 100% right (because more people die in car crashes than coronavirus?)

And YOU just being a pretty insulting person all round.

Maybe you should focus on making yourself what you are telling others to be.

Elroch

The answer to the OP is "just fine, as long as you avoid the semi-slav defense".

To be serious, risks are small compared with say the risk of a car accident, unless there is a special reason to believe infected people are more likely to be there.

DarkLord834
RedGirlZ wrote:
DarkLord834 wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:

No i left your group because you're a vile human being that attacks others with no logical points. 

 

You're doing the same here. You just say I'm wrong and don't provide points as to why, and just say you're 100% right. You sound like a little child. Go play in a playground kiddy.

Reading over the earlier conversations, guess what I saw?

YOU providing points that sound like a small child's arguments, with little or no reason to back them up, YOU attacking others and saying that YOU are 100% right (because more people die in car crashes than coronavirus?)

And YOU just being a pretty insulting person all round.

Maybe you should focus on making yourself what you are telling others to be.

I don't attack others unless im attacked first, go back and read the comments. 

 

I provided reasoning and basic logic, but again both you and that other guy have no clue what logic is. You can say im childish and that im wrong but It's irrefutable logic.

So it's irrefutable that because more people die in car crashes, that thousands of people dying from a virus is no big deal?

A life is a life. If we don't prevent the virus like we try to prevent car crashes, then the risk suddenly escalates- so stop saying we should focus more on car crashes, as redirecting the effort we put towards stopping coronavirus would make an extremely virulent virus even deadlier.

DarkLord834

Correct me if I'm wrong:

You're point was that we are "freaking out about a disease that is slightly stronger then a common cold," when "more people die from road-related injuries and cancer."

Right?

DarkLord834

So what was your input to the discussion?

I'm dying to know.

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